Wash: I didn't think you were one for rituals and such. Mal: I'm not, but it'll keep the others busy for a while. No reason to concern them with what's to be done.

'Bushwhacked'


Procedurals 1: Anything You Say Can and Will Be Used Against You.

This thread is for procedural TV, shows where the primary idea is to figure out the case. [NAFDA]


bennett - Oct 24, 2013 9:11:00 am PDT #10208 of 11831

At my last job we had both federal and state work-study money that students could get. They had different percentages that you had to pay along with different restrictions and paperwork. So much fun.


Trudy Booth - Oct 24, 2013 9:53:10 am PDT #10209 of 11831
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Of course! I am reminded of the time I posted at Tim Minear the first time and complained about how they portrayed fundraising on Angel. Good times.

Good times... good times.


WindSparrow - Oct 26, 2013 7:29:35 pm PDT #10210 of 11831
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Mentalist fans, there is a review of "Red Listed" up at [link] that includes an intriguing analysis of various characters in light of passages in Revelations about the Dragon and the Beast.


Trudy Booth - Oct 28, 2013 5:59:10 pm PDT #10211 of 11831
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Silly Castle writers. If there are a whole bunch of them now they won't be worth 1.5 million each.


Ginger - Oct 28, 2013 6:10:47 pm PDT #10212 of 11831
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Also, silver coins would have turned black.


Trudy Booth - Oct 28, 2013 7:08:50 pm PDT #10213 of 11831
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Love me some Spader, but the stupid things on this show might just be too stupid for me to go on. Why did Elizabeth have the photo? Why drive the length of the pier as seconds tick down and there is water RIGHT THE FUCK THERE?!?!? Lizzie feels all "betrayed" by the sooper criminal -- why was she trusting him in the first place?


§ ita § - Oct 29, 2013 6:13:07 am PDT #10214 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Are we supposed to assume that Alexis doesn't care about a key difference between Pi and Beckett--that she liked Beckett before they committed to each other, and Pi hasn't displayed anything intrinsic to him that her father would like? That he was a crap and ungracious guest and the only thing going for him is the word of a nineteen year old?

This is the point where we shrug and accept that she's got to act like a teenager sometime? I mean, I'd like the storyline a whole lot better if I didn't hate Pi too, and "because I love him" only counts for some of it, not all of a response.


brenda m - Oct 29, 2013 6:52:48 am PDT #10215 of 11831
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

She's 19. That seems 100% in character to me. A non-Alexis might have gone through the same thing at 15 or 16 when the stakes were lower - downside of the mature adolescent. Not that I speak from experience.


WindSparrow - Oct 29, 2013 7:12:41 am PDT #10216 of 11831
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

A non-Alexis might have gone through the same thing at 15 or 16 when the stakes were lower - downside of the mature adolescent.

That's kinda my take on it, too. While we assume that Alexis's type is as ambitious as she is, it might well be that Pi really does have a passion for saving the environment (or some other worthy cause) that she has seen him work passionately for, enough to satisfy her need to have an ambitious partner. And his more laid back qualities might be a good counterpoint to her potentially type-A personality. I am not saying that I particularly think Pi is Alexis's long-haul guy, but he might be someone she can learn a lot with, other than the heartbreak of not listening to daddy.

I do not think that Castle has addressed any legitimate concerns he has about Pi in a way that overcomes his dislike of a boy who might take away his little girl.


§ ita § - Oct 29, 2013 7:49:06 am PDT #10217 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

She's 19. That seems 100% in character to me.

But I think the show seems to be lending her more credence than I think her position deserves. If they hadn't made Pi so ludicrous, I could feel for her more, but there's a much bigger hurdle for her last speech to clear because all I can think is that she's incredibly disappointing--they're not writing her less maturely, they're writing her as maturely as she always was, with one stance that stands out.

I don't see how that Alexis didn't see any of what the script has made obvious about Pi, no matter how many bees he saves, how she doesn't seem to be encouraging him to meet her father in a middle ground, to not be such a crap guest--I'm not saying that she shouldn't date him, but making her father the villain (as far as we know--the writers can show us another side, but haven't) seems OOC for me, and I also think the "you didn't tell me about Caskett" seemed like a hurried way for the writers to lend her some credence, making it seem clumsier than anything else to me.