Don't worry, I'm not gonna start any sword fights. I'm over that phase.

Mal ,'War Stories'


Procedurals 1: Anything You Say Can and Will Be Used Against You.

This thread is for procedural TV, shows where the primary idea is to figure out the case. [NAFDA]


WindSparrow - Oct 18, 2013 11:39:34 am PDT #10163 of 11831
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Only this is a much larger, much nakeder scale. Ick. That co-worker must have REALLY wanted the extra bonus money to be willing to shove his dead, hairy, jiggly boss into the suit. And again I say ICK.

Not to mention the foolish futility of it. The man should see jail time - and will likely be paying through the nose for a lawyer at the very least - for all the laws he broke in doing so, when in fact the dead guy took care of his morals clause all by himself, it being the why and wherefore of him getting deaded to begin with.


Tom Scola - Oct 18, 2013 11:43:37 am PDT #10164 of 11831
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

It was like they had 2 or 3 pitches for episodes that were incomplete, and they sort of just mixed them together to get one full episode.


Steph L. - Oct 18, 2013 11:52:06 am PDT #10165 of 11831
I look more rad than Lutheranism

It was like they had 2 or 3 pitches for episodes that were incomplete, and they sort of just mixed them together to get one full episode.

With every successive reveal, it was like an onion of Utter Badness. Peel away one layer of badness, and wait! There's more badness! Dude dies! No, dude was killed! Co-worker made it look sketchy just to get a bigger bonus! Nanny was accused of killing dad long ago! Nanny is framed! Nanny really DID kill her dad! Wife busy plotting to kill husband! Husband is an abusive fucknut! Son killed father!

About the time the tablet was discovered (and seriously, horrible abusive fucknuts, don't save the video if you don't want to get caught), I just groaned and said, "Everyone is horrible. Everyone. They all suck. All of them. Kill them all. Now."

I admit I'm a sucker for any hint of Sherlock And His Demons, so I loved the closing shot of him beating the hell out of the punching bag.

t edit I have Strong Feelings about Captain Gregson's dye job. And they are as follows: BAD IDEA. BAD BAD BAD NO NO NO.


WindSparrow - Oct 18, 2013 11:57:24 am PDT #10166 of 11831
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

I do rather like that they successfully brought forward for a modern interpretation of Holmes' propensity to occasionally let a murderer go, if he thought it was justified. Of course, this Holmes does have a functioning moral/ethical compass in a way that Cumberbatch's Sherlock, as a "functional sociopath" may not.


Steph L. - Oct 18, 2013 12:23:37 pm PDT #10167 of 11831
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I do rather like that they successfully brought forward for a modern interpretation of Holmes' propensity to occasionally let a murderer go, if he thought it was justified.

My memory is so lousy these days -- have we seen him do it before? And last night, really, there wasn't much he could do once the nanny confessed.


DebetEsse - Oct 18, 2013 1:02:40 pm PDT #10168 of 11831
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Andi, I think your underlying point stands, but you should be aware that there's a dynamic between the Elementary and Sherlock fandoms that Elementary fans use terms like "less human" to describe Sherlock's Sherlock, which is really hurtful/alienating/off-putting to fans who identify with that portrayal (particularly fans who are on the autism spectrum, so there are able-ism/anti-neurodiversity undertones to the conversation). I'm not accusing you of that: just warning you that you're treading close to some sore subjects (which, IMO, have soured some people on a show that they'd really like if not for parts of the fandom)

What I want to know is whether he'll be writing to Abigail while she's in prison.


le nubian - Oct 18, 2013 3:03:45 pm PDT #10169 of 11831
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

How hard do we think it would be to put a good-sized corpse into a latex suit?

I am so thankful this wasn't posted in Natter.


EpicTangent - Oct 18, 2013 3:45:34 pm PDT #10170 of 11831
Why isn't everyone pelting me with JOY, dammit? - Zenkitty

Or Craigslist.


WindSparrow - Oct 18, 2013 4:15:14 pm PDT #10171 of 11831
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

But it would be hella fun on Yahoo!Answers.

Andi, I think your underlying point stands, but you should be aware that there's a dynamic between the Elementary and Sherlock fandoms that Elementary fans use terms like "less human" to describe Sherlock's Sherlock, which is really hurtful/alienating/off-putting to fans who identify with that portrayal (particularly fans who are on the autism spectrum, so there are able-ism/anti-neurodiversity undertones to the conversation). I'm not accusing you of that: just warning you that you're treading close to some sore subjects (which, IMO, have soured some people on a show that they'd really like if not for parts of the fandom)

Debet, thank you for the heads-up. I was unaware of that element of friction between the two fandoms. Goodness knows that there are aspects of other fandoms which would have run me away from their respective shows if I found it difficult to disengage from the fandom. Having spent 13 of 14 years of my career providing support for persons with autism in their daily lives, I am much better aware than most people of the complexity of their minds (no matter how much or how little they express in ways that neurotypical people can understand). It would grieve me to inadvertently hurt someone by being unaware of the nuances of the conversation.

It's been a long time since I sat in front of Jeremy Brett with Conan Doyle open in my lap like an English major with Shakespeare in the theater. There were epic debates between me and my history/poli-sci roommate in college re: Brett vs. Rathbone. The fact that I am watching and enjoying three of the more recent interpretations of Sherlock Holmes is of great wonderment to me. The element of alternate universes (in the case of RDJ's Holmes, very altered) is fascinating - looking at how the interpretations change different aspects of characterization especially. I hesitated to try watching Elementary because I found Sherlock so compelling. But I am glad that I did, and like them both. Sherlock may well be the more perilously brilliant, a brighter star burning faster. But Elementary has its own vision and it coheres beautifully.


Jesse - Oct 18, 2013 4:25:51 pm PDT #10172 of 11831
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

On the most minor of notes, I like that you see Sherlock working out on Elementary. People on TV always have great bodies, but are rarely actually exercising.