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Emily - Oct 16, 2007 4:31:46 am PDT #9907 of 10001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

I'll tell you what I discovered, vw -- you only really need to know lots of words if you're going to speak informally. If you're going to use lots of big words, you just say them with an accent, cause they're usually the same!

t /Emily's Rules of Language Slacking


Stephanie - Oct 16, 2007 4:32:13 am PDT #9908 of 10001
Trust my rage

Yeah, I was freaking out a bit on Sunday.

vw, I'm sorry Spanish is so stressful. I have to use it every day and it totally stresses me out. (see: perfectionist tendencies)

eta: I totally forgot to mention the creepy ending to our day. I mentioned there is a dengue epidemic here at the moment. Just as Ellie and I were getting out of the car last night, this truck goes down our street spraying insecticide in the air. I *know* it was insecticide, but it reminded me so much of a vehicle used to disburse chemical weapons. Thank goodness the baby is basically all developed at this point.


vw bug - Oct 16, 2007 5:02:08 am PDT #9909 of 10001
Mostly lurking...

I'll tell you what I discovered, vw -- you only really need to know lots of words if you're going to speak informally. If you're going to use lots of big words, you just say them with an accent, cause they're usually the same!

Ha! That's totally what I do! Just add an "o" at the end, and suddenly it's a Spanish word. My prof laughs at me at least once a class period, because I've done that.

Ok. Off to take the test. No-fail~ma please! I'm shooting for a C-. That would be good. Did I mention lately that I SUCK at memorizing? And that's kind of what learning a new language is all about?

Stephanie, I'm so glad Ellie is feeling better!


WindSparrow - Oct 16, 2007 5:26:38 am PDT #9910 of 10001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

After the PMS has cleared, sending this:

A while ago I came to you with an open heart and an open mind (and my mother in tow) with the hope that we could reach an understanding of how to deal with each other as adults. You told me (and my mother) that you would never be able to respect me, no matter what I said or did. I'd like to offer you the opportunity that you were not willing to extend to me and inform you of what will be neccesary in order for you to earn back my respect. You will need to apologize personally to me and (if he so chooses) to Dennis for implying that we were both stupid and crazy when we tried to speak to you about household conflicts.

Without this:

Unfortunately I suspect that your heart wasn't really in that apology that you sent to everyone. If that is the case, please ignore this letter and never speak to me again.
Would be reasonable and appropriate, Laga.

It may be well nigh impossible to do so, but if you can, it may be helpful to realize that your sister and b-i-l's malfunction is outside of you. It's difficult because it does hurt you, and because it does feel personal. But the reality is, whatever poor choices, whatever mental illness, whatever addiction, whatever cruel intent, whatever poor social training, whatever blindspots they have, are not yours, and you are not required to take them in to yourself. I hope this makes some sense, as it is what I have had to tell myself time and time again about my mother and her ex-husband. It has helped me to pull back from her without completely cutting off contact.


Ginger - Oct 16, 2007 5:36:46 am PDT #9911 of 10001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Laga, neither my family members' spouse nor most of my family members are people I would spend time with if I weren't related to them. I avoid them if possible and drink when it's not. Looking at some of the disfunctional marriages I've seen, I'd suggest not villifying him too much to your sister or pushing them both away. I've seen people stay in bad marriages because they felt that leaving them would be to admit how stupid they had been. Also, the more they're isolated as a couple from your family, the more the "us against the world" syndrome kicks in.

Holy crap, I didn't realise all you folks were of Czech extraction. Recently? Do you speak any Czech?

My great-grandfather came over from Bohemia as a child with his brother and married a woman from Bohemia. I have a Very Bohemian last name. (Once, when someone asked my about my name, I said my family had come from Bohemia and she gasped and said, "I thought Arthur Conan Doyle made up that country.")

I don't speak any Czech. My grandfather was the kind of second-generation immigrant who wanted to emphasize his Americanness. I have been told that I'm really using the male version of my last name.

I was in Prague for eight years ago for two days and my traveling companions practically had to drag me away for the rest of the planned trip. The intense colors! The steep cobblestone streets! The actual defenestration windows!

Just add an "o" at the end, and suddenly it's a Spanish word.

Also, you must speak very loudly.


Nora Deirdre - Oct 16, 2007 5:40:02 am PDT #9912 of 10001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

Just add an "o" at the end, and suddenly it's a Spanish word.

Also, you must speak very loudly.

Ah, Mirna. How I... don't miss you.


DavidS - Oct 16, 2007 5:51:18 am PDT #9913 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

My sister, whom I love, hates my husband.

What? How is that possible? He's a very likeable guy.


Fay - Oct 16, 2007 5:54:52 am PDT #9914 of 10001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

I'll tell you what I discovered, vw -- you only really need to know lots of words if you're going to speak informally. If you're going to use lots of big words, you just say them with an accent, cause they're usually the same!

Yes! I am fond of this approach to Speaking Foreign also.

Sadly I have spent the past four years in country where that just. doesn't. work.

Damn it.

(Do not even get me STARTED on Thai, and my utter crapness therein. I was SO much better at Arabic - I mean, I wasn't much good at Arabic, but I could have perfectly good CrapArabic conversations with people, with much hand waving and amusing vocabulary choices, and communication could occur. Thai? Not so much. It's the TONES. OMG. Well, okay, no, it's the tones and my laziness.)

Meanwhile, this week we're doing the register in Pirate. Granted this isn't actually a language (previous languages having been 'Chinese', 'French', 'Japanese', 'Australian' ["G'day, Kaowton." "G'day, Mate."] but it's FUN. Also, the kids have quite a wide range of possible replies. ("Ahoy there, Cap'n Ronan!" "Shiver Me Timbers, Miss Fay!" "Ahoy there, Cap'n Prim!" "Swab the Deck, Cap'n Fay!" "Ahoy there, Cap'n Chin!" "Walk the plank, Miss Fay!" etc etc.) However, they are quite partial to doing a pretend sneeze instead of replying, ever since last week when my "G'day Chin" was greeted with a sudden mighty accidental sneeze, to general hilarity. It's now a sort of standing joke, which I can find entertaining or irritating depending on how the day has been going.

My great-grandfather came over from Bohemia as a child with his brother and married a woman from Bohemia. I have a Very Bohemian last name. (Once, when someone asked my about my name, I said my family had come from Bohemia and she gasped and said, "I thought Arthur Conan Doyle made up that country.")

FanTAStic!

I bet people think the same thing about Transylvania. Bless 'em.

I don't speak any Czech. My grandfather was the kind of second-generation immigrant who wanted to emphasize his Americanness. I have been told that I'm really using the male version of my last name.

If it doesn't end in -ova (which means 'of'), then that'd be right. But, you know, I think that's good. You're not your father's or your husband's possession, you're you. Take that, pesky sexist language structure!


Vortex - Oct 16, 2007 5:56:10 am PDT #9915 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Laga, just my .02, but I think that this

You will need to apologize personally to me and (if he so chooses) to Dennis for implying that we were both stupid and crazy when we tried to speak to you about household conflicts.

might cause some problems, i.e. him replying "I never said that!", and you having to explain implications, etc. Might be better if you can stick to concrete things, or something like "apologize for your negative and unpleasant behavior when we tried to speak to you . . ."


vw bug - Oct 16, 2007 6:05:19 am PDT #9916 of 10001
Mostly lurking...

Ok. I finally took my Spanish test. I know I did really well on the dictation of phone numbers! Other than that, I'll have to wait till this afternoon to find out.

I got a speech from the prof, though, about how I have to chill and let myself learn at my own speed. Well, that's great if I wasn't trying to get a good grade!

Also, when I say I have difficulties with memorization, please don't just tell me that everyone does and assume that's gonna make me chill. I just might have some outside difficulties more than the normal ones, but whatever.

But, I did hear that part where you said I seem to be a perfectionist and that I'm applying my perfectionistic tendencies to trying to learn a whole new language. I'll try to work on that.

edited to take out big rant.