I said I'm sorry. I've made mistakes, but fear was never one of them.

Lilah ,'Conviction (1)'


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omnis_audis - Sep 21, 2007 6:38:10 pm PDT #6584 of 10001
omnis, pursue. That's an order from a shy woman who can use M-16. - Shir

BREAKING NEWS BREAKING NEWS!!!

Magistrate Higgins from Jaynestown [link] is starring in our new play!! [link]

:: xposted in Firefly ::

edited to ask... is that something to post in Sunnydale?


brenda m - Sep 21, 2007 6:49:33 pm PDT #6585 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Something else I was being mildly cranky about in email, having seen now what the shirt looked like [link] and seeing pictures of Ms. Simpson herself (she appears to be A/PI), is that part of me is wondering if the airport people would have even noticed or cared about the shirt, were she, oh, say, clearly white.

I've not seen pictures of her at all, and that was the first I've seen of the shirt. Either she hasn't flown in the last five or six years, or she's a fucking idiot.

"Well of COURSE that isn't a bomb -- anyone could see that!"

Huh. Never said or seen it said non-sarcastically before but...that's pre 9-11 thinking. Not in the sense that "OMG we're all at risk" but in the dude, you have to know people -especially airport people who have something to prove - are going to flip. I feel weirdly blame the victim about this, but, come on. Have you been living in this country the past few years? You can't assume rational responses anymore.

Mind, I think charges for this are wrong. But I'm with Trudy on the fact that the cops who said she's lucky she's not dead were speaking more to the crazy over-reactiveness she could have provoked, and not making a judgment about whether that would have been an appropriate response.

(Also - judgment really should have another "e" in there. Just saying.)

E-ingTA my ITA with Steph and Plei just because:

However, I definitely agree with you, Plei -- being charged with a bomb hoax is beyond overkill.


brenda m - Sep 21, 2007 6:50:24 pm PDT #6586 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

edited to ask... is that something to post in Sunnydale?

Prolly not, but thanks for posting it here.


P.M. Marc - Sep 21, 2007 7:00:21 pm PDT #6587 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I've not seen pictures of her at all, and that was the first I've seen of the shirt. Either she hasn't flown in the last five or six years, or she's a fucking idiot.

Or, more likely, just wasn't thinking Flight Security before going and picking up her friend (as full disclosure, I can totally see myself wearing/carrying something to the passenger pick up area that I'd never in a million years fly with--my purse would need a lot of editing before I could carry it on, and depending on the purse, yes, that does include Silly Putty) and did something pretty freakin' asstastically dumb.

But I'm with Trudy on the fact that the cops who said she's lucky she's not dead were speaking more to the crazy over-reactiveness she could have provoked, and not making a judgment about whether that would have been an appropriate response.

The wording they used REALLY doesn't read like that to m. It reads like a global threat to anyone who goes near an airport, ever, not a, "Thankfully, Ms. Simpson was compliant and cooperative. Had she not been, this could have had a different and tragic end." caution and reminder not to do stupid things.

And if this report is true (from the Salon letters section)

This morning I happened to be dropping off my husband, who works in Terminal C of the airport and so I was "lucky" enough to see this circus first hand. Walking into a scene where the police (machine guns pointed) were screaming at this little girl like she just killed a bus full of elderly people or something was awful to watch and literally one of the most terrifying things to ever be part of...until we realized that we were not, indeed, standing next to a bomb laden terrorist. I cant help but think that the response to this was not the greatest- yeah walking into an airport with an electronic device strapped to your shirt is reckless and irresponsible, but the hoodie she was wearing was clearly not a bomb- it was a tiny little rectangle with blinking lights in the shape of a star. Had I seen this girl walking down the street, I would not have looked twice- the police response to it was insane and utterly terrifying.

Makes me think there were better ways they could have handled it.


brenda m - Sep 21, 2007 7:14:03 pm PDT #6588 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Won't argue that. And if she wasn't flying herself, then yeah, I don't know what I would or wouldn't have thought about ahead of time. Though, did she go inside? I'm unclear, mostly through inattention.

But, seriously, a circuit board and a battery? Even on the bus, I'd guess you'd see some reactions - I can almost rationalize it more as performance art than that level of obliviousness. [Personally, I'd have assumed it wasn't actually a bomb but a deliberate attempt to call one to mind. ]

And, just to be clear - the cop comment I saw seemed to me very couched in relief that no one over reacted and nothing irreversible had happened. I don't doubt that there are a lot of people out there taking a slightly different tone with it.


P.M. Marc - Sep 21, 2007 7:57:56 pm PDT #6589 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Though, did she go inside? I'm unclear, mostly through inattention.

She was inside, IIRC, asking about an incoming flight. Not, obviously, past security check points.


DavidS - Sep 21, 2007 8:24:16 pm PDT #6590 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I don't think human bombs come with flashing LED lights advertising that they're bombs. Probably not star shaped either. I think you just have a vest with explosive and a detonator.

I think the Boston Police Department has conditioned itself to freak out when they see flashing lights which aren't attached to the roof of their car. Which will certainly make Christmas interesting, but I don't think there are a lot of flashing lights actually involved in terrorist activities.

However, Electrical Engineers and flashing lights definitely go together.


Laga - Sep 21, 2007 8:27:26 pm PDT #6591 of 10001
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I heard thunder!


DavidS - Sep 21, 2007 8:29:22 pm PDT #6592 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I heard thunder!

But did you see any flashing lights?


Laga - Sep 21, 2007 8:39:49 pm PDT #6593 of 10001
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I wasn't looking so, no.

this is... odd