ChiKat, have you tried magnesium or melatonin?

I take 800-1200 mg of magnesium per day (doc's orders--one day is 800, the next is 1200, etc.). The twitchy is because I've been lax about taking the prescribed calcium for the past couple of weeks. I've been taking some, just not enough and it caught up to me today.

I need to look into melatonin. Certainly can't hurt, right?

Actually, you should probably be more careful with melatonin than some other supplements, since it's a hormone, but you should be ok if you get it a reputable brand and don't take too much. Andrew Weil and others used to say (and maybe still do) that you can take more the older you get, since your body makes less and less. My uncle started taking it daily in his 70s. I started taking it in my late 20s, but would only take it occasionally, and never more than 3 or 4 days in a row.

eta: I don't think that they know of any harm from taking it regularly when you're younger, is just that since it's a hormone, some think there may be unknown side effects.

Right now, the oldest daughters are too busy being surrogate moms for their younger siblings.

In the natural world, this occurs in species like currawongs and European marmots, where the demands of bringing up young may be too hard on a single couple. (Currawongs will even try to lure juveniles away from other currawong bands.) The marmot mothers have a simple technique for keeping their daughters from having pups - they beat on them regularly to force them to abort.

Eusocial structures, like bees, wasps and naked mole rats, have a similar motivation, of course. There the other females are kept in check chemically.

Why don't more of these Christian movements look to Creation for their lifestyle choices?

Can't really say anything about their obsession with J's considering my own with O's.

Until you're naming your sixteenth child 'Obiwan', I think you'll have a little space for the moral high ground.

The mom is tiny too, damn it.

Of course she is. She's been devoured from the inside!

Gronk. Home - early - from the bar, since we didn't have anyone in for 40 minutes and I was tired.

the early riser waves hello to all of the insomniacs

::tiptoes into thread so as not to wake anyone, snuggles up next to Anne in the comfy chair::

Anne, I was glad to read that Glen was going home - he's got to be so much more comfortable/comforted at home after what must have been a scary hospital stay.

Bev, so glad to read that it's nothing.

I had to run out of the thread yesterday to break up a fight in the library. (Those who have seen me are laughing at the thought of me being the library bouncer, I know.) The library is very right now since the bar exam is over and we are between semesters, but these two idjits wanted to fight over who "bothering" whom. Whatev.

So happy to be sitting on my couch, sipping coffee, with nowhere to be until 9:15 when I'm going to take a Pilates class.

Woot! Top 20!

Morning, all!

billytea, I'll keep my moral high ground, since I'm done reproducing. The set I have keeps me quite busy enough.

I found my flip flops!

I'm going to visit my friend who had gastric bypass last week. She sounds like she's doing well.

It seems so strange to be up in the morning and yet not have a sense of urgency.

I think I like it.

Happy belated birthday, Deena.

sorry I missed it, and the rest of the things I have been missing by having a dying airport card on my laptop. this morning, it works. In fact, it does usually seem much better in the mornings, and starts to get persnickety towards evening - but yesterday the evening persnicketiness started shortly after 3pm.