Anya: It's lovely! I wish it was mine! Oh like you weren't all thinking the same thing. Giles: I'm fairly certain I wasn't.

'The Killer In Me'


Natter 53: We could just avoid making tortured puns  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


shrift - Sep 06, 2007 11:27:37 am PDT #8861 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

He's crouching and lifting her up.

And according to IMDb, Tilda Swinton is 5'10" or 5'11" and it looks like she's wearing some killer heels.


§ ita § - Sep 06, 2007 11:29:13 am PDT #8862 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

This is pretty much looking like expulsion on account of gayness...or, you know, another sex scandal witchhunt.

The former--bad. The latter? Live by the sword of morality, then I damned well want to see people decapitated with it should events require.

Though I'd be simply pleased if he was shamed out--not for being gay, but for being gay and lying about it, or being gay and lying and legislating against it.

What plea, Brenda? I only saw the "I thought if I pled guilty it'd go away" angle.


Daisy Jane - Sep 06, 2007 11:31:26 am PDT #8863 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

being gay and lying and legislating against it.

This.


tommyrot - Sep 06, 2007 11:32:48 am PDT #8864 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Live by the sword of morality, then I damned well want to see people decapitated with it should events require.

Yeah. Plus for the Republican party to be consistent with their values, they should either force him out or change their position and say there's nothing wrong with being gay.

Of course, the latter would be better, but I can't see that happening right away. But maybe it will make some social conservatives think....


Fred Pete - Sep 06, 2007 11:41:36 am PDT #8865 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.

being gay and lying and legislating against it

As opposed to David Vitter, who paid for his (straight) sex.


bon bon - Sep 06, 2007 11:42:17 am PDT #8866 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

The former--bad. The latter? Live by the sword of morality, then I damned well want to see people decapitated with it should events require.

Sure, it's consistent for the Republicans. I don't care whether the Republicans are consistent. I think it poses a problem for anyone who held that a witchhunt designed to out Clinton's sexual indiscretions was wrong, or that his several instances of sexual misconduct was unrelated to his fitness for office. I personally can't have it both ways.


brenda m - Sep 06, 2007 11:45:33 am PDT #8867 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Basically what he said was that he didn't do anything wrong, but he couldn't fight the charges because it would cause publicity. Which is more or less correct, really. I can see how someone could rationally think along those lines and plead to something they didn't actually do. (With the caveat that where he claims he didn't *do anything*, I'd say he didn't do anything illegal, and those two positions are miles apart.)

And yeah, this is the world you spent your career defending - welcome to it.


tommyrot - Sep 06, 2007 11:46:49 am PDT #8868 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I'd say he didn't do anything illegal

If you let him foot-tap, pretty soon everyone will! It'll be anarchy!


bon bon - Sep 06, 2007 11:50:42 am PDT #8869 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

If the Craig criminal matter shows anything, you future closeted Senators, it's to get a lawyer immediately! They even provide one for you. Do not talk to the cops! Get a lawyer!


Daisy Jane - Sep 06, 2007 11:51:00 am PDT #8870 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I don't think whether he cruises for sex with men has anything to do with his fitness for office. I think that cruising for sex with men while voting for legislation that adversely affects other men who like to sleep with men does.

Had Clinton been legislating against blowjobs or making adultery criminal, then we'd be comparing apples to apples.