Whoa! I... I think I'm having a thought. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a thought. Now I'm having a plan. Now I'm having a wiggins.

Xander ,'First Date'


Natter 53: We could just avoid making tortured puns  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Wolfram - Aug 28, 2007 7:33:55 am PDT #7209 of 10001
Visilurking

From what I can find in news reports, the cop was sitting in one stall, and Craig "gazed" through the crack of the stall for a couple of minutes. Then he entered the stall next to the cop's, put his roller case inside the stall (to ostensibly cover the crack in his stall door), and started tapping his foot (which is supposed to signal some kind of desire for sexual intercourse). The cop tapped his foot back, and Craig put his foot across the divider into the cop's stall and rubbed the cop's foot with it. Then Craig put his hand underneath the divider. At that point the cop busted him.

I really don't see a case there, and I don't understand why he pled guilty.


Jesse - Aug 28, 2007 7:34:35 am PDT #7210 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

My experience has shown that individuals engaging in lewd conduct use their bags to block the view from the front of their stall.

Where else can you put your rolly bag in a bathroom stall? That just seems like reaching.


tiggy - Aug 28, 2007 7:35:22 am PDT #7211 of 10001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

My experience has shown that individuals engaging in lewd conduct use their bags to block the view from the front of their stall

wow. i do this, but i've never had sex in an airport bathroom. they don't exactly give you a whole lot of room to roll your carry-on in with you. what else are you supposed to do with it?

At 1215 hours, Craig tapped his right foot. I recognized this as a signal used by persons wishing to enegage in lewd conduct.

seriously? what if he was listening to an ipod or mp3 player and was tapping his foot with the music?

this statement is just stupid to me.


Dana - Aug 28, 2007 7:37:40 am PDT #7212 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

By itself it might be stupid, but the guy entered a guilty plea. And now he's saying, "Oh, no, I was just trying to get the whole thing finished quickly."

I do not think I would plead guilty to solicitation and hope it just never became public knowledge. Especially if I were a Senator.


Wolfram - Aug 28, 2007 7:37:40 am PDT #7213 of 10001
Visilurking

Wow, just read the police report. Definitely a sketchy case. Tapping a foot and reaching a hand under the door is lewd conduct?


Jesse - Aug 28, 2007 7:38:49 am PDT #7214 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I'm willing to concede that there was probably more to it in person than it sounds like written down like that. But written down it sounds kind of ridiculous.

I do not think I would plead guilty to solicitation and hope it just never became public knowledge. Especially if I were a Senator.

SERIOUSLY.


DavidS - Aug 28, 2007 7:41:38 am PDT #7215 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

The fact that the foot tapping was followed by foot frottage, as well as it all going according to known coded behavior seems damning. Plus pleading guilty. Plus a gay activist outing Craig last year for bathroom sex.

I'm now of the opinion that the entire Republican party is composed of closeted homosexuals.


Wolfram - Aug 28, 2007 7:42:35 am PDT #7216 of 10001
Visilurking

I'm willing to concede that there was probably more to it in person than it sounds like written down like that. But written down it sounds kind of ridiculous.

Those reports are supposed to be as detailed and factual as possible. Either the officer did a terrible job of recording the event, or he dropped his badge too early.

Now I get why you want to keep public restroom clear of lewd behavior, but the whole approach, especially in Craig's case, just smells homophobic. I agree with Matt.


Trudy Booth - Aug 28, 2007 7:47:56 am PDT #7217 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

The fact that the foot tapping was followed by foot frottage, as well as it all going according to known coded behavior seems damning. Plus pleading guilty.

Yeah, it doesn't seem that vague to me either.


Jessica - Aug 28, 2007 7:51:14 am PDT #7218 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Now I get why you want to keep public restroom clear of lewd behavior, but the whole approach, especially in Craig's case, just smells homophobic.

I agree.

On the other hand, pleading guilty to something you don't want people to think you did is so unbelievably stupid that I'm finding it hard to come up with a lot of sympathy here.

I'm now of the opinion that the entire Republican party is composed of closeted homosexuals.

Seriously.