Yeah, I could do that, but I'm paralyzed with not caring very much.

Spike ,'Showtime'


Natter 53: We could just avoid making tortured puns  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


tommyrot - Aug 11, 2007 11:54:13 pm PDT #4138 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

There's a storm moving through the area. A gust of wind caused my fan to fall off the windowsill and crash to the floor, waking me up.

On the plus side, my in'ernet is working again.

On the minus side - don't know if I'll be able to get back to sleep.

On the plus side - my fave breakfast place opens in two hours. Steak and eggs babee!


Bobbi - Aug 12, 2007 12:51:34 am PDT #4139 of 10001
Dog is my co-pilot.

On, not in.

eta: Boy, that just can't not sound bad. I do think there's a difference though.

Yep, I get the difference. Same here.

I also get that it's a cultural thing. I grew up with all of the pets in the house. I'm not really sure where that came from since my mom grew up on a farm and my dad grew up without pets. At one point, though, we had a dog, a budgie, a hamster, two albino chipmunks, and a toad (for whom my dad built a great terrarium.)

I don't expect that everyone will treat their dogs or cats the same way I would. When I say "treating them as part of the family," I mean taking responsibility for their needs. I don't understand people who have animals and don't take care of them.


Theodosia - Aug 12, 2007 1:09:42 am PDT #4140 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Having a touch of insomnia here, too, for pretty much the past two hours. And in another two hours I have to climb into the car and drive back to MA, just to make it even more FUNFUNFUN.

I found a good and worthy volunteer organization at the 4H Fair, the PA State Animal Response Team, which works to temporarily house displaced pets and animals in an emergency. The idea got started when so many people stayed in place during Katrina, Rita et cetera because shelters would not admit their pets with them. This way, there's a network in place so that when somebody goes to a Red Cross Shelter with their pet, there's a safe place for the pet to be until the emergency is over.


Zenkitty - Aug 12, 2007 3:46:35 am PDT #4141 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

When I say "treating them as part of the family," I mean taking responsibility for their needs. I don't understand people who have animals and don't take care of them.

Me too. Taking on the care of an animal, to me, means its whole life. What I can't understand and don't want to is people who treat animals as mere things, possessions to be discarded when they get in the way.

I haven't slept at all tonight. I'm just now getting sleepy, at 8:30am. This day is shot.


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 12, 2007 5:49:56 am PDT #4142 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I'm not sure this part is a culture thing.

Yeah. I've given pets a bath, but they're not invited to participate in my own.

To me, dogs are outdoor pets. Ideally cats would be too, but since they're self-cleaning I don't have as big an objection to them sharing the furniture. My mom, however, displaced her craving for grandchildren onto her latest cat. And it is clearly the alpha in my parent's house.


ChiKat - Aug 12, 2007 6:26:39 am PDT #4143 of 10001
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

My cat is part of my family for sure. And, I know I do things with him that are strange to even some animal lovers (get your minds out of the gutters, I let him lick ice cream off my spoon). He sleeps on the foot of my bed. He travels with me when I am gone for more than a couple of days. He is always in the room with me (that's more his doing than mine, he follows me around). Right now, he's laying on the desk right next to my computer which is his normal place when I'm on the computer.

My dad had a hard time with me bringing my cat to his house at first. He grew up on a farm and cats should live in the barns and be mousers, not indoor pets. My mom wasn't terribly fond of cats, either. She figured the barn was the right place for them, too.

Now, both of them refer to him as their "grandcat" and dote on him. He gets treat food and catnip and toys from them every Christmas. And, they have 8 real grandchildren, so it's not a displacement thing. I do think they've realized this is the only grand-whatever they'll get from me, however.


sumi - Aug 12, 2007 6:40:28 am PDT #4144 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

I worked with a woman whose son got a pup from people whose bitch had many, many litters. They wouldn't get her spayed because they didn't want to put money into her just to have her get hit by a car. . . so I asked why they couldn't keep her penned while she is in season? I mean, it is a finite time and it only happens about twice a year.

Basically, they just couldn't be bothered. Is that good animal husbandry? Isn't farming about taking care of your animals too?

(They had a male dog who they wouldn't get fixed either -- but even if they did - a bitch in heat will attract whatever dogs there are in the area.)


Laura - Aug 12, 2007 6:40:41 am PDT #4145 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

I did have a big dog in the house when I lived with DX,

My groggy mind was trying to remember when Zenkitty lived with DXM.

My step-dad was a Minnesota farm boy and didn't quite get our relationship with dogs in the house. They don't have dogs themselves, but all of us leave our animals with them when we travel. They love their granddoggies. He has been converted to an inside dog person. My cat is outside much of the time, but seems to prefer being inside more with age. As long as she continues to prefer to pee outside we're good. She only uses a litter box if she is inside for a long time because of storms.

eta: I left the cat in Florida and regret this decision, not only because I have mice here!


brenda m - Aug 12, 2007 6:52:04 am PDT #4146 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Packing. How the hell did I accumulate so much stuff?

Some new pictures of the new place here: [link]


amych - Aug 12, 2007 6:57:52 am PDT #4147 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

It's fab, Brenda! Verra excited for you.