Zoe: Nobody's saying that, sir. Wash: Yeah, we're pretty much just giving each other significant glances and laughing incessantly.

'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Natter 53: We could just avoid making tortured puns  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Aims - Aug 07, 2007 7:59:41 am PDT #3005 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

What's more expensive in Michigan than in LA?

Daycare/preschool, gasoline, car insurance, utilities (from what I've seen) and groceries. Cable, internet, and land lines seem to be the same. Cell phones are the same as are our credit card and loan payments.


bon bon - Aug 07, 2007 7:59:57 am PDT #3006 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

1. Because he's pounding himself into the ground to move from the top 0.5% to the top 0.4%. And doesn't sound happy about that fact, but can't think his way out of a paper bag the social-status pursuit he's in.

2. Because when your diamond shoes are too tight, it's asshole behavior to talk about it to the New York Times.

Yeah, still not getting it. So it's a bad thing to work hard to become rich now? I could work a lot less with a 50% pay cut. But I don't-- I guess I'm an asshole.


megan walker - Aug 07, 2007 8:00:00 am PDT #3007 of 10001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

I expected housing costs to be lower or about the same. I didn't expect everything else to be more expensive.

Yow, Aimee. That sucks and makes no sense. What's more expensive in Michigan than in LA?

Maybe it's a West Coast thing. I was so afraid of how expensive SF would be, but besides housing I haven't seen it. In fact, I've been amazed at how cheap certain things are compared to the East Coast. A tall latte at Starbuck's? $2.50. Monthly metro pass? $45.


Dana - Aug 07, 2007 8:00:28 am PDT #3008 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Gasoline is more expensive? Holy shit. I'm spoiled living down here, where gas is probably almost the cheapest in the country.


lisah - Aug 07, 2007 8:03:13 am PDT #3009 of 10001
Punishingly Intricate

I was shocked by how inexpensive food was in SF compared to what I'd been used to on the east coast. That was 15-ish years ago though.


shrift - Aug 07, 2007 8:03:35 am PDT #3010 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Gas is so expensive in the midwest. It's ridiculous and a hardship for anyone who can't take public transit to work.


§ ita § - Aug 07, 2007 8:04:20 am PDT #3011 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm not going to lie. The multiple showerhead system that your money buys you at The Royal York, or the Half Moon Villa with cook, driver, and maid, or the just damned beautiful decor at The Hudson--more money than I'm willing to take out of my pocket (I just can't wrap my head around spending my money on hotels...leather coats, I get, and electronics...just not hotels), but I can see where the money has gone.

In my head I separate expensiveness for a real reason from inflation for prestige. And as I go along, I learn more. Swimsuits? Don't be distracted by the amount of fabric. That's not where your money went. More money goes into stitching the seams. Or why this car costs more than that--sometimes you're paying for the brand name, sometimes you're paying for the whisper quiet engine (how silent would an electric Lexus be? It'd be like a black hole of sound, I wager).

And then I read about things like this tuck box some of my relatives were selling for hundreds of dollars.

Dude. Box. Sure,you can do things to boxes to make them more expensive--use more expensive materials, for one. But still...box?

I had a much more streamlined point when I started. Mostly I want them to bring me my food so I can lay back down. And some Benadryl, so my dilaudid-induced itch can go away.

Cool! This computer is a Linux box! I don't even know where the computer is. In the wall somewhere, maybe. All I get is flatscreen panel and cramped keyboard, but I'm surfing from a Linux box. Good choice, hospital people.


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 07, 2007 8:06:23 am PDT #3012 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I felt plenty wealthy three years ago, because I had a lot (well, to me) saved up and my living arrangement choices were made based on having no car payment and $1.75/gallon gasoline. Nowadays not so much, as a new car loan and higher gas prices have put me a bit in the red each month. But I certainly don't feel poor, and stubbornly remain in the situation because I'm happier with where I live than I ever have been previously.


Scrappy - Aug 07, 2007 8:06:39 am PDT #3013 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I feel incredibly lucky that we could afford a house. We were on a five-year intense savings plan to afford to buy a small condo, and my brother lending us the downpayment allowed us to get a house and to do it this year. (Now our savings plan goes to paying him back!) We live frugally, with 10-year-old cars and no fancy clothes or eating in expensive restaurants and vacations once every three years or so or whatever, but I feel very content. Even on a budget, I have real luxuries like TiVo and going to live concerts a few times a year and pretty Fiestaware to eat off of and being able to hire someone to scrape the popcorn off the ceilings of our new place instead of doing it ourselves. I am lucky and I know I am.


Sue - Aug 07, 2007 8:07:05 am PDT #3014 of 10001
hip deep in pie

Here's an old NYT article about the state of hangriness:

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