I've really got to learn to just do the damage and get out of town. It's the 'stay and gloat' that gets me every time.

Ethan Rayne ,'Potential'


Natter 53: We could just avoid making tortured puns  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


lisah - Aug 07, 2007 8:03:13 am PDT #3009 of 10001
Punishingly Intricate

I was shocked by how inexpensive food was in SF compared to what I'd been used to on the east coast. That was 15-ish years ago though.


shrift - Aug 07, 2007 8:03:35 am PDT #3010 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Gas is so expensive in the midwest. It's ridiculous and a hardship for anyone who can't take public transit to work.


§ ita § - Aug 07, 2007 8:04:20 am PDT #3011 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm not going to lie. The multiple showerhead system that your money buys you at The Royal York, or the Half Moon Villa with cook, driver, and maid, or the just damned beautiful decor at The Hudson--more money than I'm willing to take out of my pocket (I just can't wrap my head around spending my money on hotels...leather coats, I get, and electronics...just not hotels), but I can see where the money has gone.

In my head I separate expensiveness for a real reason from inflation for prestige. And as I go along, I learn more. Swimsuits? Don't be distracted by the amount of fabric. That's not where your money went. More money goes into stitching the seams. Or why this car costs more than that--sometimes you're paying for the brand name, sometimes you're paying for the whisper quiet engine (how silent would an electric Lexus be? It'd be like a black hole of sound, I wager).

And then I read about things like this tuck box some of my relatives were selling for hundreds of dollars.

Dude. Box. Sure,you can do things to boxes to make them more expensive--use more expensive materials, for one. But still...box?

I had a much more streamlined point when I started. Mostly I want them to bring me my food so I can lay back down. And some Benadryl, so my dilaudid-induced itch can go away.

Cool! This computer is a Linux box! I don't even know where the computer is. In the wall somewhere, maybe. All I get is flatscreen panel and cramped keyboard, but I'm surfing from a Linux box. Good choice, hospital people.


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 07, 2007 8:06:23 am PDT #3012 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I felt plenty wealthy three years ago, because I had a lot (well, to me) saved up and my living arrangement choices were made based on having no car payment and $1.75/gallon gasoline. Nowadays not so much, as a new car loan and higher gas prices have put me a bit in the red each month. But I certainly don't feel poor, and stubbornly remain in the situation because I'm happier with where I live than I ever have been previously.


Scrappy - Aug 07, 2007 8:06:39 am PDT #3013 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I feel incredibly lucky that we could afford a house. We were on a five-year intense savings plan to afford to buy a small condo, and my brother lending us the downpayment allowed us to get a house and to do it this year. (Now our savings plan goes to paying him back!) We live frugally, with 10-year-old cars and no fancy clothes or eating in expensive restaurants and vacations once every three years or so or whatever, but I feel very content. Even on a budget, I have real luxuries like TiVo and going to live concerts a few times a year and pretty Fiestaware to eat off of and being able to hire someone to scrape the popcorn off the ceilings of our new place instead of doing it ourselves. I am lucky and I know I am.


Sue - Aug 07, 2007 8:07:05 am PDT #3014 of 10001
hip deep in pie

Here's an old NYT article about the state of hangriness:

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Sophia Brooks - Aug 07, 2007 8:07:16 am PDT #3015 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Monthly metro pass? $45.

Wow! In Rochester, NY the monthly bus pass is $56 and Starbucks is about $4.50. I could buy a house for $70,000, though, and my rent is $485 for a one bedroom with a full attic, additional alcove, huge kitchen, and screen in back porch.


Sparky1 - Aug 07, 2007 8:09:24 am PDT #3016 of 10001
Librarian Warlord

I guess I'm an asshole.

I think his assholish-ness is related to his complete inability to express any sincere appreciation what he does have. (note: I haven't read the article)

Gas was more expensive in the Bay Area, food was cheaper. Rents were about the same -- but that means there was a full spectrum. Housing stock is greater in DC and more varied.


P.M. Marc - Aug 07, 2007 8:13:19 am PDT #3017 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Food, gas, and housing are all premium priced up here!

Woo!


Steph L. - Aug 07, 2007 8:14:58 am PDT #3018 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

(I just can't wrap my head around spending my money on hotels...leather coats, I get, and electronics...just not hotels)

I'm willing to pay more for hotels in specific situations. If I'm going to the F2F, my hotel room is pretty much just a place to sleep and shower, and while I'd prefer that it not be a bug-infested motel hell, neither does it have to be a swanky 4-star experience.

But if I'm going on vacation with my honey, and it's our first vacation together, and we've both expressed a serious need to just veg and loaf around (not a euphemism), then I'm willing to pay more for a nicely appointed B&B/inn that will give us room and comfort to loaf around.

That said, my idea of "paying more" means $160/night at a B&B which will feed us twice a day. Factor in the food as well as our expressed desire to loaf around in comfort, and that's not really a whole lot more than a Holiday Inn, and paying the difference is worth it to me.