Does anybody mind if I pass out?

Willow ,'Beneath You'


Natter 53: We could just avoid making tortured puns  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


bon bon - Aug 02, 2007 10:04:04 am PDT #1957 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I think the big difference between the sexes, clothing-wise, is that women have more gradations to work with. Men basically have four levels -- suit, jacket, khakis, jeans/shorts. And there's a pretty clear delineation between each level. Women seem to have more subtle gradations to take advantage of or maneuver through, depending on whether you like the idea or not.

I think this is a good point, and why the dress code affects women in a seemingly unfair way. Also because sexiness is less of an issue with men in the office.


§ ita § - Aug 02, 2007 10:08:30 am PDT #1958 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Dress codes are so expensive for women. A good men's suit is expensive, but they last and don't look dated so soon. Not to mention how unnoted they can be. It makes the bare minimum for men cheaper than same for women.

And variety is cheaper for us.


Vortex - Aug 02, 2007 10:13:02 am PDT #1959 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I'm in education, but I tend to dress fairly business-like. Also, I sometimes go more casual in the summer (i.e. no hose) today, I am wearing a more casual outfit -- brown sleeveless top, black suit jacket, ankle length, flowy black skirt with brown leaves on it, black low heeled slides (closed toe).

For me, it's very much habit. In the law world, I tended to dress up because people assumed I was admin if I wasn't wearing a suit. (not that there's anything wrong with being an admin, but I went to law school and passed the bar, do not ask me to make your goddamned copies. it has happened). Here, I do it because I'm following my boss' example, and he wears a suit. I like suits, I don't find them uncomfortable at all, and I don't even mind hose if it's not too hot out. I generally wear flats, though. I own and occasionally wear heels if there's a meeting or a presentation or something.


Vortex - Aug 02, 2007 10:15:32 am PDT #1960 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Dress codes are so expensive for women. A good men's suit is expensive, but they last and don't look dated so soon. Not to mention how unnoted they can be. It makes the bare minimum for men cheaper than same for women.

not to mention that a man can just switch up a shirt and tie and wear the same suit three times in a week.


shrift - Aug 02, 2007 10:17:56 am PDT #1961 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Shoes confound me so.

Mm. Shooooooes. If only I could shop for some, but no, I'm so not allowed to spend any money.

shrift, I just sent some clicky-links to you.

EEEEEEEEEeeeee!!


Aims - Aug 02, 2007 10:19:29 am PDT #1962 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

I've often envied Joe in the mornings and his ease of getting work ready.

These khakis. This polo. Same shoes.

Where as for me, it's "Ok, this skirt and this top...wait...doesn't match. Where's the matching top? Fuck, dirty cause I wore it with jeans. Kay. These pants, and this top. Nope, this shirt is too short for these pants. Ok, this shirt. Nope, too bloated today. Finally, this shirt ok. These pants, this shirt. Shoes...shoes....ok, these shoes. Nope, heel falling off. These shoes - nope. Meeting today, should wear something more dress. These shoes? Scuffing on the side (color shoe with Sharpie). Scuffing fixed. Ok. Acessories...."


brenda m - Aug 02, 2007 10:21:00 am PDT #1963 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I think Aimee's been spying on me in the morning.


Steph L. - Aug 02, 2007 10:22:48 am PDT #1964 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

guayaberas

I had to google this — I didn't realize those were a *specific* type of shirt, other than, say, "button-front, short-sleeve." Keen.


Aims - Aug 02, 2007 10:22:55 am PDT #1965 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Seriously! I loathe getting dressed in the mornings. And it's doubly hard in summer, because you want to be comfortable, but not trampy. It seems so much easier in the fall/winter than summer.

Which reminds me, I should start buying my new cableknit sweaters soonish.


§ ita § - Aug 02, 2007 10:25:00 am PDT #1966 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

For all of this, there are certain days on which I need to wear long sleeves, pants, and closed shoes--not just closed toe, but covering all the foot.

Irritating as hell because I can never remember which of my work-appropriate pants fit from one moment to the next. Which is why I'm sprinkling jeans throughout more of my week, so job walk days don't stand out so much.