it actually reminds me of Owen's use of the phereomone thingy in Torchwood

Which was also, basically, rape, and called out as such by many fans. Didn't stop them from watching the show, but many people never got over their disgust with Owen for that.

I'm going to go sit on Amy's bench too. I called Warren on Wes during the watch and post. I saw his face as Hope didn't even know his name again when the wish was undone. He was punished, the degree to which is going to be arguable. For me, and I value other points of view, Show did it's job.

I do have to recap it, Austin. Demian needs a little more time off. We're going to take it week by week.

Oh no. On the bright side, we get to be entertained by you. And I felt alot better about the episode after I watched it again, so I developed a little pity for it.

Second time around allowed me to pick up on some of the Edlund lines that I missed. How I miss the Tick.

I'm not sure where I read that. Maybe in fic, who knows. But I'm pretty sure he did, even if he doesn't anymore.

I think you are right Amy. There are pictures. Not that pictures prove anything other than at one point for one moment something happened. I'm coming up on two years without a cigarette though and I want to know how people have the will power not to smoke in their car. I could have easily not smoked if someone was riding with me, but if it was a car of mine and I drove it any length of time, at some point, I smoked in it.

My personal interpretation is that it is magic. And even though Joxer remembers what he did none of it actually happened. This makes no sense but there would be no reason for the magical object (which came from what magical entitities?) to punish whatshername for what he did. . . or I suppose what she did (wishing Sam dead) under the influence.

Translation, please: PotC 2? My brain keeps saying "People of the Corn 2," and I'm just not remembering any movies by that name.

Ah ha! I think I had a moment of clarity -- "Pirates of the Carribean," yes? And yes, it was a dreadful movie.

Which was also, basically, rape, and called out as such by many fans. Didn't stop them from watching the show, but many people never got over their disgust with Owen for that.

I'm in this camp. Although I find the show's blasé use of Retcon as objectionable (perhaps moreso WRT Gwen using it on Rhys to negate a reaction she didn't like rather than the usual impersonal use in the name of security). I do, however, give Torchwood credit for finally buying a clue and depicting the violation of people's memories as reprehensible in "Adam."

4.09 promo - longer than the one that followed the show.

Preview scene from 4.09 (director's cut) and a second preview scene from 4.09.

4.09 promo

LOVE. Misha does the voice over. SQUEE.

Cindy's recaplet just reminded me: was the foot-long sub that Dean ordered a shout out to 10-inch Hero?

Ahhh. Could have been. I haven't seen it and know almost nothing about it. (eta: the movie, not Cindy's recap) Did the delivery guy come in and ask who ordered the sandwich or hero? How awesome would it have been if he said, "who ordered the hero" and Dean raised his hand?

I do remember my mucho favoritest part. When Sam pulls Dean aside so that Audrey can't hear and whispers, "Are we going to...should we...are we going to kill the Teddy Bear?" BWAH! JP's face and the way he delivers the line is priceless.

eta2: Two things that are distracting me this season: 1) Jensen keeps curling his lip when he's talking. Like Elvis. 2) The way Jensen is saying people's names when he wants to ask them a question. He did it with Mary and again with Audrey. It's weird. The inflection or something is off from how people normally say names. Is he mumbling it so the character will show Dean's shyness? JA what games are you playing with Jared's acting coach?