I would be there right now.

Simon ,'Objects In Space'


Supernatural 1: Saving People, Hunting Things - the Family Business  

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Juliebird - Oct 31, 2008 2:20:22 pm PDT #9389 of 10002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Eh, Google tells me that it is "Shivon" (shive-on or shy-von).

Maybe Uriel is like a former co-worker of mine, we'll call her Maura to protect her identity, who was on equal footing with me, but as soon as the top dog left, she began acting with more authority and power than she was supposed to have, and unless one of her equals reigned her in and called her on her shit, she did in fact become more powerful.


Theresa - Oct 31, 2008 2:39:49 pm PDT #9390 of 10002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

Eh, Google tells me that it is "Shivon" (shive-on or shy-von).

This. At least that's how they say it and spell it in Ballykissangel.


Beverly - Oct 31, 2008 2:50:20 pm PDT #9391 of 10002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Oh, Siobhan? Yes, Shivawn. Naeve=Neeve. Fionuhala? Fiona. Or Finola, depending. Maeve? Um, Mave. Maire? Mayree. Kieran, Ciaran? Kyr-an. Cerridwyn, Ciardwen? Keyerdwin. Said really fast like "the key-er would win". Celtic Cs are always hard. Boston Celtics are the exception. Signed, formerly obsessed. Please don't ask me about Welsh, I have NO clue.


P.M. Marc - Oct 31, 2008 3:39:34 pm PDT #9392 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I think my Dad's dad's people spoke Scots Gaelic, apropos of not very much. Was common enough in Nova Scotia enclaves, go fig.

I am trying to get Jilli on board with my Earth 2 fanwank for shit like Samhain. Honestly, it helps with the exploding brains.


Beverly - Oct 31, 2008 4:01:13 pm PDT #9393 of 10002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

I am trying to get Jilli on board with my Earth 2 fanwank for shit like Samhain. Honestly, it helps with the exploding brains.

Care to expound?


Topic!Cindy - Oct 31, 2008 4:26:37 pm PDT #9394 of 10002
What is even happening?

Celtic Cs are always hard. Boston Celtics are the exception. Signed, formerly obsessed. Please don't ask me about Welsh, I have NO clue.

I heard once (I have no idea if it's correct, but the source was a believable one), that Scots say celtic with the soft C and Irish say it with the K-sound or hard C.

I think my Dad's dad's people spoke Scots Gaelic, apropos of not very much. Was common enough in Nova Scotia enclaves, go fig.

Was he from Cape Breton?


Typo Boy - Oct 31, 2008 4:31:11 pm PDT #9395 of 10002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I wonder if your Earth 2 fanwank has anything in common with mine. Supernatural is set in an alternate earth where the supernatural is real, and very similar to many of our own earth's urban legends and popular cultures. So in that earth it really is "Sam Hain" and it really is the "The book of revelations".


P.M. Marc - Oct 31, 2008 4:39:04 pm PDT #9396 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Cindy, I think so, but I will have to ask. He was born on PEI, but they moved around a lot, and weren't originally from there. That is the branch of the family that is hard to trace.

Bev: Earth 2 = comic book alternate earth. Jilli doesn't believe the fanwank, nor will she accept the Superboy Prime punched a hole in reality excuse.


P.M. Marc - Oct 31, 2008 4:40:19 pm PDT #9397 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Gar: pretty much.


Consuela - Oct 31, 2008 9:01:52 pm PDT #9398 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

According to Fraser (The Golden Bough), Samhain is one of the four major Celtic fire festivals; it's the end of the year and the beginning of the next. It's not doom and death, it's passage into the new year. On the day of the dead, when the year too dies...

I admit that although I know how to pronounce a lot of Celtic words, I'd never heard Samhain pronounced--I just knew it likely wasn't Sam Hane. It sounded like they were talking about Sam Haine, the pizza delivery guy. Argh.

As for Uriel, I have a suspicion he's the Angel of Death. He's very Old Testament. Castiel's a bit more NT, the way he refers to "my father".

... which I also find slightly problematic. God is Our Father--father to humans. But angels are a different order, and I'm not sold on the concept of them calling their creator their father. That's too mortal for them.

Which is another problem I had with Castiel. Angels are emissaries and servants of God. They are a different order of being than humans and they don't, I think, have free will--or at least not the way we understand it. Free will is what makes us human, what makes us valuable--that we can choose evil as well as good. Castiel having doubts makes no sense to me.

OTOH, according to legend Lucifer was an angel who revolted, and you can't do that without doubts either. Except in this show they've told us that demons used to be people: does that mean angels did, too?

I dunno, man. The theology on this show really makes my head hurt. Victims get punished (like last week), damned souls can crawl out of Hell, God is ruthless and his messengers are racist, there is no grace or mercy in the universe, and demons used to be humans. It's so ... unforgiving. One moment of anger or resentment and you're damned forever, apparently.

I'm so glad I don't live in the Winchesters' world, and not just because I'd be a shitty hunter.