I think the cheeziness ( of stuff like "Sam Hain" ) is really fundamental to the way the show works. The premise of the show is not only that the supernatural exists, but it works along the lines of American urban legends and popular culture - in spirit and general outline, even if details vary.
I'm not crediting the writers with doing this entirely deliberately - a lot of it is a result of sloppy research. But I suspect that more of it than we think is intentional. Incidentally, while I hope the gender and race issues ARE accidental, I think they actually contribute to this: American urban legends and popular culture is extremely racist and sexist and homophobic (though less than in the past). It could avoid this, but would have to put a lot more effort into doing so than the showrunner chooses to.
At any rate cheese whiz theology, (for example the book of revelations instead of revelation) is basic to the way the show works
Until this discussion, I never knew the proper pronunciation. I could easily see the boys mispronouncing it. But I also would have that that either during research or something that - "Oh, by the way, it is actually pronounced ....." would have come up.
Need to rewatch. Unfortunately am at work and likely won't have time until later tomorrow. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
Speaking of urban legends. The authors of Made to Stick, a book I highly recommend, assert that the razor blades in apples and poisoned Halloween candy incidents have never actually happened.
The two times, since 1982 when children have died in Halloween related candy incidents, it was a relative killing the children to cover up criminal activity.
Still, the whole razorblade/bobbing for apples thing really worked for this episodes. Even though I knew it was coming, it creeped me right out.
Plus, I yelled out FRANK MILLER! when I saw the teacher and had to go imdb to make sure Frank wasn't branching out. Heh.
count me among those who didn't know how to properly pronounce Sam Hein and i think, to be fair to the writers/actors if they had pronounced it correctly a lot of people wouldn't have realized who they were talking about. i doubt the general public knows it's said any differently.
Until this discussion, I never knew the proper pronunciation. I could easily see the boys mispronouncing it.
I thought of this fanwank and then realized that the
angels
would not have mispronounced it. But I'm basically in tiggy's corner.
Frank Miller?
Because he looked like Frank Miller, apparently. I didn't see that, but the only time I've seen Frank Miller was a couple years ago from a distance.
Interview with Todd Stashwick - who was the shapeshifter in "Monster Movie."
Who was he on Buffy?
to be fair to the writers/actors if they had pronounced it correctly a lot of people wouldn't have realized who they were talking about. i doubt the general public knows it's said any differently.
I thought this, too. But I think Sam is research geek enough that if he had showed Dean a page in a book, and Dean had mispronounced it, Sam could have easily corrected him. Problem solved. It just ... irked a little bit. Because it does seem like something Sam would know, you know? He can read, like, sanskrit and shit.
(But would Sam necessarily have heard it said? I'm not sure.)
Okay - imdb says that Todd Stashwick was the Mfashnik Demon on Buffy and the Vocah Demon on Angel.
Who was he on Buffy?
According to IMDB, he played a M'Fashnik Demon on the Flooded episode. If I'm remembering correctly, that's the one where Buffy goes to the bank to try to get a loan (after she's been resurrected and her friends helpfully tell her they've been living in her house while it's losing money, but they haven't been doing anything except waiting for her to come back to fix things). So he's the demon summoned by the Trio.
