I always thought the name Serenity had a vaguely funereal sound to it.

Simon ,'Out Of Gas'


Supernatural 1: Saving People, Hunting Things - the Family Business  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though -- if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


Morgana - Oct 12, 2008 9:09:23 am PDT #8669 of 10002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

I think YED was pushing right up to the absolute edge of the rules when he bled into the kids with their parents rather than their own consent.

It's like the situation in Reaper, where Sam's parents sold his soul to the Devil. And Sam's friend Ben points out, quite rightly in my opinion, that they couldn't -- that a soul can only be given up by the person to whom it belongs. Sam would have to make that deal, not his parents.

So SPN Sam, and the other psychic kids, were tainted by demon blood through no volition of their own. Their parents made them the sacrifice. So sure, burn Mary or the other parents, but it's Just. Not. Fair. to blame the kids for something that was done to them when they were 6 months old. Of course, in the SPN-verse, as in the Bible, things are seldom fair.

Also, I'd accept the argument that while the source of the power is negative, the kids can't be held liable for anything until they actually do something evil with it. (Like Andy -- was he doing bad, or was he just annoying and amusing? And Eva was trying to be helpful by warning Sam about the visions. It wasn't until the YED got to her that she turned evil. As far as we know Jake didn't do anything bad with his superstrength - he saved someone's life, that's all we know - until the YED arrived. Lily is more problemmatical. But she didn't electrocute people deliberately.) So Sam has powers that may come from a dark place. But he resisted the YED's efforts to make him turn to the Dark Side of the Force.

The question is, is what Sam's doing now evil? Or enough to put him at risk of turning evil? And if so why, because I honestly still don't see it. (To recap: exorcising demons, good. Leaving hosts alive, good. The angels don't like the methods? I don't suppose they'd enjoy the irony of turning evil against itself.)


sumi - Oct 12, 2008 9:56:17 am PDT #8670 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!

Perhaps Castiel and Co. don't trust Ruby?

It's not that what Sam is doing is inherently evil - they are interesting in figuring out Ruby's ultimate plan.


Morgana - Oct 12, 2008 1:39:15 pm PDT #8671 of 10002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

Are there still plans for a watch and post tonight?


tiggy - Oct 12, 2008 2:30:13 pm PDT #8672 of 10002
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

I was just going to ask the same thing. i'd almost forgotten!


Anne W. - Oct 12, 2008 2:34:55 pm PDT #8673 of 10002
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Same here!


Amy - Oct 12, 2008 2:37:42 pm PDT #8674 of 10002
Because books.

Yup. Six p.m. board time, nine eastern. Home first. And then a quick break, I think? Before we watch the next one?


Lee - Oct 12, 2008 2:48:18 pm PDT #8675 of 10002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I'll definitely need at least a short break, because I'll be watching Home on the TV and ItB on the computer, and I need to switch rooms.


Anne W. - Oct 12, 2008 2:53:48 pm PDT #8676 of 10002
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

It's going to be fun W&Ping with those I normally don't see due to time zones. Heck, we could be watching When Racist Trucks Attack, and I'd be all over the idea.


Beverly - Oct 12, 2008 3:02:10 pm PDT #8677 of 10002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

we could be watching When Racist Trucks Attack

Hee. Besides, homicidal racist TRUCK. GHOST truck, even. - Consuela & PMM Former tagline. Good times. Bad ep, but good times.


Lee - Oct 12, 2008 3:12:32 pm PDT #8678 of 10002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

For ItB, are most people going to be watching with commercials?

Are we going to watch the previouslies for both?