Or TNT. I know they run reruns of Angel, that kind of fits thematically.

I really don't hold out a lot of hope. I know Jensen and Jared were sort of taken aback when Kripke first made his "end by S5" wishes known, but they've both taken that on for a while now, at least in public. Kripke has a development deal, but if the CW tanks, so does that deal. He might be willing to jump networks, and the actors probably would, too. But I don't really see it happening. As much as the audience has grown, I doubt it's a large enough share to make the pickup worthwhile to another network.

But it does explain why they're throwing all the mythology up at us this season, and tying up as many loose ends as they can. I'm just in it as long as it lasts. I am glad they seem to have (at least partially) resolved some of the issues that plagued S3. And looking back, I can see how those might have been intended to show Dean in his hellbound mental state. Not that that excuses them, but I can see how the concept started, if that was indeed the case.

I don't think making the show more R rated would be a problem. Lots of fans (several of them here) have been saying SPN would kick ass on HBO or Showtime. And it would enable them to deal more realistically with the gritty stuff.

Imagine Ghostfacers without the bleeping!

Oh, in case y'all don't frequent the low dives I do, a couple of snippets from Eyecon last weekend: Travis said Jared just picked AJ up on his shoulder one day and walked around with him like that for a while. And Jensen finally said, "Jared, put him down." So Jared did.

And filming the apparition getting hit by the train scene, Jensen kept poking AJ in the ass with his shotgun so he'd go "Ah!" in the middle of the line. Every take. And the director got testy with AJ because his delivery made no sense, but he kept doing it.

Fun times.

Here's the thing...I am okay with the series ending this season (I kind of feel lucky it has been on the air this long), but I would like to have a Supernatural Movie next year.

Pretty please.

Oh, in case y'all don't frequent the low dives I do, a couple of snippets from Eyecon last weekend: Travis said Jared just picked AJ up on his shoulder one day and walked around with him like that for a while. And Jensen finally said, "Jared, put him down." So Jared did.

That makes me unreasonably happy. For no good reason.

I feel lucky we got to S4, too. That said, I'd hate to see this season truncated, and I really hope Kripke is working on a way to wrap the story up to his satisfaction in case there's no S5 or no CW or both.

wrap the story up to his satisfaction in case there's no S5 or no CW or both.

From what I'm understanding, that's the plan.

I know both the JJs want a Butch and Sundance ending, a heroic freeze frame while the sound of a hail of gunfire goes on (I'll be Butch and Sundance, Jensen'll be Thelma and Louise). I just want them to ease on into the background, the landscape and legend of truckstop America. I want them out there, saving people, hunting things, long after the series is done.

I know both the JJs want a Butch and Sundance ending

If they did that, you'd see the fandom implosion from orbit around Mars.

I can see the Js wanting that.

Fans can be pussies. Both Butch and Sundance and Thelma and Louise have perfect endings, imo.

The interesting thing about that big loser/gainer thing is that the big gainers were pretty much all on the CW and CBS.

And, I think, that the CW is somehow connected to CBS which could help it's longevity.

Another Misha Collins interview in which he utterly fails to decrease my love for him:

Misha Collins: Well, I like to write poetry. I'm a published poet. I've been published in several literary magazines this year. I also built the house that I live in. I paid my way through college as a carpenter and a woodworker. So I've built the house I live in and most of the furniture that's in it, and I do a lot of woodworking still. And I also like the outdoors a lot. I spend a lot of time camping, and in the winter I do a lot of back-country camping and snowboarding up in the High Sierras. As long as you don't hit trees you're fine.