wrap the story up to his satisfaction in case there's no S5 or no CW or both.

From what I'm understanding, that's the plan.

I know both the JJs want a Butch and Sundance ending, a heroic freeze frame while the sound of a hail of gunfire goes on (I'll be Butch and Sundance, Jensen'll be Thelma and Louise). I just want them to ease on into the background, the landscape and legend of truckstop America. I want them out there, saving people, hunting things, long after the series is done.

I know both the JJs want a Butch and Sundance ending

If they did that, you'd see the fandom implosion from orbit around Mars.

I can see the Js wanting that.

Fans can be pussies. Both Butch and Sundance and Thelma and Louise have perfect endings, imo.

The interesting thing about that big loser/gainer thing is that the big gainers were pretty much all on the CW and CBS.

And, I think, that the CW is somehow connected to CBS which could help it's longevity.

Another Misha Collins interview in which he utterly fails to decrease my love for him:

Misha Collins: Well, I like to write poetry. I'm a published poet. I've been published in several literary magazines this year. I also built the house that I live in. I paid my way through college as a carpenter and a woodworker. So I've built the house I live in and most of the furniture that's in it, and I do a lot of woodworking still. And I also like the outdoors a lot. I spend a lot of time camping, and in the winter I do a lot of back-country camping and snowboarding up in the High Sierras. As long as you don't hit trees you're fine.

And he was a pre-Lewinsky Clinton Presidential intern, I found out in a tv interview with Kwhatever someone linked to. Dood.

Can I fangirl Jared for a moment? Here's a quote from someone who was at Eyecon last weekend.

The Q&A itself didn't reveal much new or astounding, so I mainly enjoyed watching Jared simply be Jared. This being my second time seeing him, I settled in to savor it, and I'll tell you something that occurred to me. Jared is damned good at what he does.

Under that boyish, self-effacing, gosh-I'm-just-from-Texas exterior lies an awfully astute mind. He knows how to work a crowd, how to make us all feel at home, how to embrace an entire room like we're just hangin' out over beers - and yet he fields fan questions from the awkward to the downright silly with deft aplomb. Jared is running the room, it's not running him, and I find it impressive how well he does it, and makes it look like he's not doing a thing. Someone later told me he had excelled in debate in school, and I can certainly see that, now, in his ease in front of a crowd where anything might come at him.

Taken from this post, which I believe is not f-locked. There's a really gooey paragraph in there about him and a baby girl named Sam who attended with her parents.

Can I fangirl Jared for a moment?

I'm impressed. I've never been able to keep it to a moment. For any of them. :)

Does anyone here know? Do we have to go to five seasons to get syndication? If it's number of episodes then the strike will have hurt us. I'd like us to make that mile marker.

But not to be ungrateful, I do appreciate that we are in season four when there was every chance in the world we wouldn't have survived the first season.

I hope they don't do a Butch and Sundance/Angel ending. I don't think I could take that again. Well, obviously I would, but I wouldn't enjoy it.

I think syndication is reached after 100 episodes, but i also think exceptions can and are made. i mean, look at My So-Called Life. that's 19 episodes and not only has MTV bought the rights to air it, but the N network did too.

I hope they don't do a Butch and Sundance/Angel ending. I don't think I could take that again. Well, obviously I would, but I wouldn't enjoy it.

I think there are a couple ways it might work and be satisfying, but I agree that I'd rather imagine Sam and Dean saving people and hunting things after the series ends.