I didn't so much mind the fact that the "Book Club" housewives were pagan as that they apparently were able to contact and manipulate occult forces via a level of expertise and dedication similar to that required by TV dinner instructions. I like it better when the occult is depicted as rare, on the hidden fringes of society, and taking years of concentrated study to master. People shouldn't be able to check Harry Potter books out of a suburban library and use them to make deals with the Devil.
Nothin'. I just wanted you to face me so she could get behind ya.
Mal ,'The Train Job'
Supernatural 1: Saving People, Hunting Things - the Family Business
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Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 14, 2008 6:33:23 am PDT #7614 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Ailleann - Jul 14, 2008 6:45:09 am PDT #7615 of 10002
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda
People shouldn't be able to check Harry Potter books out of a suburban library and use them to make deals with the Devil.
Though, were they maybe being manipulated by the demon that was using them? Perhaps giving them access to something that they otherwise wouldn't have had access to, and making it easier for them to use it?
Typo Boy - Jul 14, 2008 6:56:09 am PDT #7616 of 10002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
I always thought that magic being easy to do was the only justification for having characters go out of their way to keep its reality secret. I mean if there really are vampires and werewolves and such, let people know so they can defend themselves or at least take precautions. But if anyone can learn with about fifteen minutes work to summon demons that will kill 100 people, that is a justification for keeping it secret. The number of people the police will be able to protect against werewolves and such will be much smaller than the number killed by magic people do to get laid, get ahead or get revenge.
Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 14, 2008 6:56:33 am PDT #7617 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
That's how they explained it in the episode, that the demon was providing the power for their spells without them knowing. I still think it should take a lot more know-how and effort to make that initial contact that attracts the demon's attention though. This was the equivalent of someone being on the hook for a mortgage because they clipped pictures of the house they want out of the newspaper rather than going through a bank and signing a deal.
Polter-Cow - Jul 14, 2008 11:21:18 am PDT #7618 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Things I loved: Dean; Bad Day at Black Rock (one of the funniest things I've seen in AGES - that was some splendid writing and just glorious physical comedy, imho); Dean's Not!Son (Awwww! Such cuteness!); Fairy Tales coming true; The Black Pearl Ghost Ships; Groundhog Day & the return of the Trickster; "GhostFacers!"; Henrikson's revelation; Wee!Dean trying to give Sam a Christmas by stealing presents from the kid down the street; The Evil Christmas God Duo*. (Do love how very much this show continues to dovetail with Giaman's American Gods.)
Hee. I loved all these things as well! And most of your thoughts mirror my own.
Beverly - Jul 14, 2008 4:13:16 pm PDT #7619 of 10002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.
There may be spoilers in this interview with Todd Farmer about My Bloody Valentine.
The relevant paragraph is near the end:
TF: There's no camp. There's some real humor that comes out of real situations but no camp. It's still creepy and still atmospheric. These are real people facing real scares and real brutality. And when I say "real" I mean quirky and flawed and loving and pissed off and brilliant. And much of that brilliance is due to the actors. Jensen Ackles is a force of nature, always surprising you with his choices. Patrick calls him a young Steve McQueen.
Consuela - Jul 14, 2008 6:46:43 pm PDT #7620 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
Have we posted this vid? I think not: [link]
Fay in particular needs to see this.
You can get download links here: [link]
Morgana - Jul 14, 2008 6:50:37 pm PDT #7621 of 10002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber
The episode made me wince a bit because it was doing that contrived A Very Special Episode thing, but I loved the flashbacks to Wee!Dean and Wee!Sam (for I am always a sucker for that)
Am I the only person who winces at the oh so terrible acting of Wee!Dean? ("Shut Up! Don't you Ever say Anything about Mom!") It yanks me out of what I know is supposed to be a heart-tugging scene every time.
Beverly - Jul 14, 2008 8:55:19 pm PDT #7622 of 10002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.
I've seen Ridge Canipe in other things, and he's a very organic actor. I tend to think his performance in the Christmas ep was director failure. It wasn't optimal, that's for sure.
Nice one, Consuela, thank you!
Fay - Jul 14, 2008 9:54:29 pm PDT #7623 of 10002
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.
Oh, that was splendid, 'Suela!
I continue to be of the opinion that Faith and Dean would be very very good for one another. And should have lots of babies.
(I can't think of any other characters that I wish domesticity upon - but the notion of those two crazy kids on the road, raising a handful of monster-slaying brats...just a lot of adorability right there. And they both CRAVE family. I'm not sure whether Sammy would be part of this scenario...probably, though.)