Well, quite a lot of fuss. If I didn't know better, I'd think we were dangerous.

Mal ,'Bushwhacked'


Supernatural 1: Saving People, Hunting Things - the Family Business  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though -- if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


sumi - May 09, 2008 10:55:13 am PDT #7255 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!

What does that score mean?

She's less Mary Sue than you'd expect?


DebetEsse - May 09, 2008 11:41:10 am PDT #7256 of 10002
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Maybe next season we'll get the "Adventures of Dean and Bela! In HELL!"

I will admit to having had this thought.

I have 2 questions:

1) Red eyes? wtf with red eyes?

2) Why, if Lilith wants Sam dead, would she make a deal to resurrect him?


Matt the Bruins fan - May 09, 2008 11:55:01 am PDT #7257 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

What does that score mean?

Well, the test designer set 50+ as the cut-off point for "Kill it now." Meaning such a painfully obvious Mary Sue that no respectable author should have combined so many tropes of extra-specialness.


Theresa - May 09, 2008 1:34:29 pm PDT #7258 of 10002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

Maybe next season we'll get the "Adventures of Dean and Bela! In HELL!"

I will admit to having had this thought.

Me third. I was thinking, "Aww, well at least Dean will know someone when he gets there."

When I was 12, I would have known better than to sell MY soul grumble grumble grumble

Not a Bela fan, but this kinda made sense to me. Lord save us from teenagers anywhere in that 12-18 range. LIFE or DEATH. They'd sell their soul for a better car, let alone a more substantial reason such as abuse.


Nutty - May 09, 2008 2:16:49 pm PDT #7259 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

This, I fear, is the ultimate flaw in the Supernatural universe as constructed. If demons have the ability to make a deal with anybody, with no reasonableness limitations, how is it that a thirteen year old boy from Hoboken is not currently Emperor of the Universe, ritually beheading his sadistic gym teacher daily, and the polygynous husband of ten different Hollywood starlets?


Beverly - May 09, 2008 2:32:39 pm PDT #7260 of 10002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

teenagers anywhere in that 12-18 range. LIFE or DEATH. They'd sell their soul for a better car

  • cough* Gunn. *cough*


Amy - May 09, 2008 2:43:51 pm PDT #7261 of 10002
Because books.

Yeah, I think most teens (and especially preteens) are not quite as precocious as our Jilli.

The red eyes on Bela's demon confused me, too, because red eyes are a crossroads demon thing. But ... she was on a swing set, and she certainly wasn't shown summoning one.


Ailleann - May 09, 2008 2:47:11 pm PDT #7262 of 10002
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

how is it that a thirteen year old boy from Hoboken is not currently Emperor of the Universe, ritually beheading his sadistic gym teacher daily, and the polygynous husband of ten different Hollywood starlets?

Because he won't do anything that could be useful to a demon in the years between 13 and 23?

Wildly speculating on Lillith's purpose here, but I'd guess that trying to take Dean's soul was 1) a fun way to piss off the YED, before he sadly went tits up, 2) a way to drive Sam toward some crazy behavior which would make him easier to take out, and 3) the feather in the cap of getting another Winchester in Hell.

As for Bela, she's certainly no slouch when it comes to the supernatural... perhaps having her running around as a chaotic neutral wildcard was an entertaining notion.


Matt the Bruins fan - May 09, 2008 2:52:40 pm PDT #7263 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

It is possible that on the whole we're looking too hard for pragmatic, sensible motivations and not giving enough credit to demons' demonstrated sadistic delight in fucking with people.


Polter-Cow - May 09, 2008 3:00:15 pm PDT #7264 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I mean, compare and contrast the demons' actions here and the Devil's on Reaper. The Devil totally gets a kick out of fucking with people. There's no hidden agenda there. He always knows there's a catch, and that's the joy of it.