It is possible that on the whole we're looking too hard for pragmatic, sensible motivations and not giving enough credit to demons' demonstrated sadistic delight in fucking with people.
Angel: Just admit it: you think you're gonna ride in, save the day, and sweep Buffy off her--Spike: Like you're not thinking the same thing. Angel: I'm already seeing somebody. Spike: What, dog girl?
'The Girl in Question'
Supernatural 1: Saving People, Hunting Things - the Family Business
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Matt the Bruins fan - May 09, 2008 2:52:40 pm PDT #7263 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Polter-Cow - May 09, 2008 3:00:15 pm PDT #7264 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
I mean, compare and contrast the demons' actions here and the Devil's on Reaper. The Devil totally gets a kick out of fucking with people. There's no hidden agenda there. He always knows there's a catch, and that's the joy of it.
Juliebird - May 09, 2008 3:07:48 pm PDT #7265 of 10002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
I would think that unless the demons were actively sought out to make a deal by normal random people (looking to become awesome blues guitarists) that the demons see who have a path that would involve them in the supernatural and seek to divert them, thwart their path, and gain their souls in the bargain. Basically taking them out of the running and rid themselves of a potential enemy.
Amy - May 09, 2008 3:18:38 pm PDT #7266 of 10002
Because books.
It is possible that on the whole we're looking too hard for pragmatic, sensible motivations and not giving enough credit to demons' demonstrated sadistic delight in fucking with people.
Yes, this. I mean, I have no trouble believing the demons in this verse would lack the kind of code that would prevent them from giving a contract to a fourteen-year-old, for one.
Nutty - May 09, 2008 3:37:04 pm PDT #7267 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
Because he won't do anything that could be useful to a demon in the years between 13 and 23?
I have no trouble believing the demons in this verse would lack the kind of code that would prevent them from giving a contract to a fourteen-year-old, for one.
No, no, no. This is not my point. My point is not "How cruel/unhelpful to let a teenager sign a contract of this nature!" my point is "If teenagers are signing contracts of this nature, then the universe should be considerably different and a billion times more melodramatic than it actually is."
(Bear in mind that we have canonical evidence from season 2 that not all those who make demon deals end up doing anything magically significant -- unless being an architect, a doctor, a husband, or a painter is magically significant.)
Where are the unicorns? Where the purple sparkly eyes, the flowing red locks? Why is George Clooney not married a thousand times over? Why do boarding schools still have parietal rules? Why do you need to show ID when buying wine coolers?
If demons are signing contracts with teenagers this world over, they must be signing contracts with the most boring, staid, pantywaist teenagers in the history of the universe. Given that demons are evil and want to fuck with people; and given that teenagers are dumb enough to be fucked with liberally; and given that demons seem to have very little bar to their ability to seek out candidates for fuckery... why does it seem that the only person who has made a deal with a demon is George Will?
(Or whoever it is who is delighting in the incredible boringness and length of the democratic nomination process. Surely that's got to be demonic influence.)
Atropa - May 09, 2008 3:40:47 pm PDT #7268 of 10002
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.
If demons are signing contracts with teenagers this world over, they must be signing contracts with the most boring, staid, pantywaist teenagers in the history of the universe.
This is a very good point.
Amy - May 09, 2008 3:53:18 pm PDT #7269 of 10002
Because books.
Yeah, but not all (as in *most* if you ask me) teens would have no idea how to summon a demon, you know?
Keeping in mind that this is the same verse where 98 percent of the population has no idea ghosts are even real, I mean.
Typo Boy - May 09, 2008 4:24:37 pm PDT #7270 of 10002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
Yeah. I always too it for granted as a minor subtext in the Buffyverse, the Supernaturalverse and a lot of other magical verses that there is a really good reason for keeping magic secret. Evil magic is a lot easier to do than good magic or neutral magic. Making a deal with the wrong being is horribly easy - if you know that it is possible. (Hell, that's true in this verse too. Just that the horrible entity here is called "Citibank". )
But you know, some people have figured out magic in both verses. And teenagers tend to experiment with stupid shit even more than adults. Maybe they all wished to be pop stars or TV stars, and that is why we have so many reality shows now...
Juliebird - May 09, 2008 4:26:49 pm PDT #7271 of 10002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
maybe that's how/why the New Kids on the Block are having a reunion concert.
Sparky1 - May 12, 2008 4:46:53 am PDT #7272 of 10002
Librarian Warlord
A quick drive-by post, as I am still catching up on episodes and sleep (thanks, jet lag!).
A little way back with the discussion of whether this season would end with Dean going to Hell, Amy mentioned she thought the last episodes was 3.16. Working for a catholic u., my mind immediately went to the over quoted John 3:16, e.g., "for god so loved the world that he gave his only son."
Which I sincerely hope is just a coincidence.