see? black eyes and demon smoke about :27 in.
You always think harder is better. Maybe next time I patrol, I should carry bricks and use a stake made out of butter.
Buffy ,'The Killer In Me'
Supernatural 1: Saving People, Hunting Things - the Family Business
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tiggy - Feb 15, 2008 5:31:30 am PST #6181 of 10002
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore
Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 15, 2008 6:29:04 am PST #6182 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
This. I like him and thought he would die.
I like that there does seem to be an awareness on the part of the writers about how difficult it would be to kill a freakin' god that can manipulate reality at will. Sam, Dean, and Bobby talk about it as a trickster, like it's a case of termites in the basement that someone needs to call Orkin for, but the show seems to respect the fact that this is Coyote or Loki or some similar figure out of myth and legend.
sumi - Feb 15, 2008 6:36:09 am PST #6183 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!
Yeah, he is THE Trickster and not so easily gotten rid of. There was an excellent post about what the Trickster was doing over at TWOP. I think I need to read up on Tricksters and what their purpose is.
(Didn't the Trickster episode make it clear that he wasn't dead?)
Polter-Cow - Feb 15, 2008 6:39:34 am PST #6184 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
I figured the trickster was going to be involved because of the previouslies. they really need to be more subtle with those.
Right?
(Didn't the Trickster episode make it clear that he wasn't dead?)
Yes.
I'm also glad that I wasn't the only one who saw zombies in the preview. My IRL SPN friend says that she thinks that they were demony minions like we saw at the end of season 1.
It's the ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE. (Except, yes, they're probably more like very groggy demons.)
Ailleann - Feb 15, 2008 6:51:42 am PST #6185 of 10002
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda
(Didn't the Trickster episode make it clear that he wasn't dead?)
We knew, but the boys didn't.
I don't think they're going to be actual zombies, but I think they're trying to invoke the zombie-esque kind of terror. (See also: Croatoan.)
Nutty - Feb 15, 2008 6:53:11 am PST #6186 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
(Psst: it's Assault on Precinct 13, except we've secretly replaced the usual Scary Unwhite Urban Youth with Folger's crystals. Let's see if anyone notices!)
The treatment of race, considering the history of the entrenched-white-defenders genre, will be kind of key to next week's episode.
ETA: sorry, sorry. Screen embiggenation my fault.
Amy - Feb 15, 2008 7:03:48 am PST #6187 of 10002
Because books.
But Victor is black. So ... I'm not sure where you're going with that.
Nutty - Feb 15, 2008 7:46:10 am PST #6188 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
I'm not sure where the show is going with that, either. (I mean, I haven't seen the episode.) It's just that, when you work in reference to a genre like that, race issues are gonna come up. A clever show knows that in advance, and comes up with some way of dealing with those issues.
Amy - Feb 15, 2008 8:02:45 am PST #6189 of 10002
Because books.
It's just that, when you work in reference to a genre like that, race issues are gonna come up. A clever show knows that in advance, and comes up with some way of dealing with those issues.
I suppose. That's not why I'm watching the show, though. And I don't think race issues are in the show manifesto, even if they're addressed (for good or ill) tangentially.
Nutty - Feb 15, 2008 8:18:58 am PST #6190 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
Race issues are clearly not in the show manifesto, or else they'd have done a better job at them to date. However, stories don't exist outside of their context. If you borrow from a genre that has racist overtones, it kind of behooves you to rework what you're borrowing, so as not to continue transmitting the racist overtones. Right?
Just like westerns don't automatically cast the Indians as villains any more.