I don't give a good gorram about relevant, Wash. Or objective. And I ain't so afraid of losing something that I ain't gonna try to have it. You and I would make one beautiful baby. And I want to meet that child one day. Period.

Zoe ,'Heart Of Gold'


Supernatural 1: Saving People, Hunting Things - the Family Business  

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Lee - Feb 01, 2008 5:43:03 am PST #5940 of 10002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

What is it you dislike? The women/witches thing?

That was part of it, yes. I also thought it was unnecessarily gross, and the editing was sloppy in a few parts. I like Ruby a lot more when she is not sympathetic. I thought Dean talking time out from being pinned to the wall to leer at the lesbisdemons was a cheap cliche.

Most of all I am just not sure I like where the story line is going, especially since we won't be getting a full season for it to develop.


tiggy - Feb 01, 2008 5:46:29 am PST #5941 of 10002
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

that made me snort. especially when he didn't have a comeback.


sumi - Feb 01, 2008 5:50:12 am PST #5942 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!

Oh, and for an episode that was supposed to explore Ruby's backstory - we really should have seen more of Ruby, no?


Amy - Feb 01, 2008 6:01:16 am PST #5943 of 10002
Because books.

I like the idea of Ruby being sympathetic, but I don't know if I believe her. She could be playing both of them.

I don't know where the storyline is going anymore. I had my own ideas at the start of the season, mostly about where it *should* go, but now who knows? And that's the shame of it, because certain things got set up pre-strike that they're going to have to either wank or shorthand or just ignore.

I think the thing that least impresses me is this idea of a huge *war*. And powerful LesbiDemon is hanging out with wanna blessed-bes whose main objective is lower mortgage rates and craft contest wins? I don't get it.


Consuela - Feb 01, 2008 6:07:50 am PST #5944 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I also think it's worth noting that apparently Sam isn't looking for a way to save Dean anymore.

... okay, then!


Amy - Feb 01, 2008 6:12:23 am PST #5945 of 10002
Because books.

I think he's just humoring Dean, and not talking about what he's doing. But that could just be my personal fanon on it.


Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 01, 2008 6:25:40 am PST #5946 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

It occurs to me that Sam does have a way to get Dean out of hell once he's dead, but it would involve letting who knows how many demons and other spirits out of the gate.


sumi - Feb 01, 2008 6:49:01 am PST #5947 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!

Amy - I am thinking the same thing. He's obviously not going to talk to Dean about it.


sumi - Feb 01, 2008 6:50:04 am PST #5948 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!

So, I had this whole thing about Hell being like a blasting furnace that burns the evil away - byproduct: Demon. But then the good is also concentrated and possibly just as dangerous. And Kripke clearly doesn't want to go in that direction.


Ailleann - Feb 01, 2008 7:20:06 am PST #5949 of 10002
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She could be playing both of them.

This wouldn't surprise me at all. Making her sympathetic makes Dean trust her more. And maybe see his potential self in her.

I think the thing that least impresses me is this idea of a huge *war*. And powerful LesbiDemon is hanging out with wanna blessed-bes whose main objective is lower mortgage rates and craft contest wins? I don't get it.

Maybe she was just starting out small, taking over these women's souls and encouraging them to do more and more black magic, but the plan got thwarted by Vengeance Witch?

As far as the witches being women, I'm going to continue to sound like I'm defending the patriarchy, and maybe I am, but when it comes to American mythology, are there really a lot of warlocks running around? Are there lots of male covens? The mythos of a coven of female witches seems much more prevalent to me.