I like the idea of Ruby being sympathetic, but I don't know if I believe her. She could be playing both of them.
I don't know where the storyline is going anymore. I had my own ideas at the start of the season, mostly about where it *should* go, but now who knows? And that's the shame of it, because certain things got set up pre-strike that they're going to have to either wank or shorthand or just ignore.
I think the thing that least impresses me is this idea of a huge *war*. And powerful LesbiDemon is hanging out with wanna blessed-bes whose main objective is lower mortgage rates and craft contest wins? I don't get it.
I also think it's worth noting that apparently Sam isn't looking for a way to save Dean anymore.
... okay, then!
I think he's just humoring Dean, and not talking about what he's doing. But that could just be my personal fanon on it.
It occurs to me that Sam does have a way to get Dean out of hell once he's dead, but it would involve letting who knows how many demons and other spirits out of the gate.
Amy - I am thinking the same thing. He's obviously not going to talk to Dean about it.
So, I had this whole thing about Hell being like a blasting furnace that burns the evil away - byproduct: Demon. But then the good is also concentrated and possibly just as dangerous. And Kripke clearly doesn't want to go in that direction.
She could be playing both of them.
This wouldn't surprise me at all. Making her sympathetic makes Dean trust her more. And maybe see his potential self in her.
I think the thing that least impresses me is this idea of a huge *war*. And powerful LesbiDemon is hanging out with wanna blessed-bes whose main objective is lower mortgage rates and craft contest wins? I don't get it.
Maybe she was just starting out small, taking over these women's souls and encouraging them to do more and more black magic, but the plan got thwarted by Vengeance Witch?
As far as the witches being women, I'm going to continue to sound like I'm defending the patriarchy, and maybe I am, but when it comes to American mythology, are there really a lot of warlocks running around? Are there lots of male covens? The mythos of a coven of female witches seems much more prevalent to me.
I may be the only buffista who called demons being people - months ago. Though I did not get the exact mechanism, I guessed they were some sort of angry spirit as soon as I heard that demons don't know whether Lucifer exists any more than people do. Too lazy to do a search and link the post.
I'm getting a bit tired of this season's positioning "pagan" as shorthand for evil. Guys? Your dad and you, Bobby, and presumably other hunters, have been using a polyglot of bastard Roman, Byzantine and Orthodox Catholic ritual along with bits from Norse, Asian, Indian, Pictish, various Amerindian, Celtic and Polynesian pagan mythologies to combat "evil" for as long as we've known you. Cut out the pitiful politic attempts to placate whatever religious queasiness you're being pressured with by naming "pagans" as evil. Ta ever so.
Like Amy, I was so happy to see Winchesters on my screen I didn't give a lot of critical thought to my first watching. And I haven't had time since to watch again. Discussion here and elsewhere has given me lots to think about during that second, and any subsequent, watching.
I think at this point the arc is pretty well unrecoverable. I hope they don't attempt to resolve it, but weave it into S4--which I believe they're pretty well guaranteed, due to lack of new show pilots next season. They might have a resolution at holiday hiatus, and a forewarned and therefore much more gracefully abbreviated S4 arc. Or, I could be completely off-base. Wait and see, I guess.
