I'm not a huge proponent of the (unconcious) anti-female issues on this show, but that stabbing scene, the way it was filmed, just hit me wrong. I get Dean being angry beyond angry, intellectually, but in that case I would have thought the shot should have been on his face, and not on the stabby porn. Usually I am immune to these things. So maybe all the convos here finally sunk in, or this really was a bit more extreme than the norm. *shrugs*
Zoe: Don't think it's a good spot, sir. She still has the advantage over us. Mal: Everyone always does. That's what makes us special.
'Serenity'
Supernatural 1: Saving People, Hunting Things - the Family Business
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Juliebird - Jan 31, 2008 6:10:57 pm PST #5924 of 10002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
Nutty - Jan 31, 2008 6:38:41 pm PST #5925 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
when Dean stabbed that demon over and over and over and over again, and the way the camera lingered on the firey stabs, it just felt wrong.
Ding ding ding! Number of stab wounds is a pretty easy rule of thumb for how psycho-hosebeast the killer is, on every single TV show but this one. That goes double when he's got her pinned, and he knows it'll be fatal the first time.
Somebody needs lots of therapy. Not the characters, I mean.
Ailleann - Jan 31, 2008 6:44:15 pm PST #5926 of 10002
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda
Not to get all defending the male patriarchy, but... maybe they just wanted a longer shot of the sweet "demon electrocution" thing?
::braces for impact::
Nutty - Jan 31, 2008 7:03:10 pm PST #5927 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
I've seen enough of Highlander -- where the electrocution is like electron porn! It goes on and on and on, and then a few last sparkles for good measure! -- to know that one fatal injury is as good as many where pyrotechnics are concerned. You can use slo-mo, you can use dramatic shot-reverse shot reactions, you can turn that lady into a Tesla machine -- but it's not necessary that Dean be doing anything at all to her, after the knife has gone in the first time.
Lee - Jan 31, 2008 8:03:34 pm PST #5928 of 10002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
Meh
sumi - Jan 31, 2008 8:11:31 pm PST #5929 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!
Hahaha! I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought of Charmed. (I'm eager for Demian's recap on TWOP for this very reason.)
I loved that they used Every Rose has a Thorn - that was amusing.
I hated that they actually had Sam tell Dean that he was going to have to be Dean. (Like, we got that guys - you don't have to actually tell us.) And I wish that there had been some researchy plotty way that they could have realized that demons are made from people other than just being told that.
Next week looks good.
Consuela - Jan 31, 2008 8:34:59 pm PST #5930 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
Well, it's really hard to think the writers are even aware of feminist readings when every female character but one in the episode ends up dead in very nasty ways. ::counts:: Five women.
Between that and the unnecessary gore and ickiness I felt like the show was sort of saying, "Ew, girls! We don't want girls watching! This is a show for guys!"
Possibly I am over-reading.
And Ruby become sympathetic is automatically about 700% less interesting to me. Who wants an altruistic demon?
Also, this was Ben Edlund? Where was the funny?
Theresa - Jan 31, 2008 8:58:57 pm PST #5931 of 10002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"
I just got home and had to read through the reactions before watching the show.
Yay show! I'm so sad that we won't be able to have a full season story arc. Or I guess I should say more episodes to tell the arc. It will be a full season by definition no matter how many episodes are produced. I'm going to bed before I talk myself into a circle.
Ginger - Feb 01, 2008 4:24:53 am PST #5932 of 10002
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda
And I wish that there had been some researchy plotty way that they could have realized that demons are made from people other than just being told that.
Demons are people! Demons are people!
t / Soylent Green moment
darlini - Feb 01, 2008 4:57:28 am PST #5933 of 10002
- Has Heston flashbacks*
Whew! Damn you Heston!! I have mixed feelings here on this ep. I didn't find the brother bonding moment quite as bad as the stabby stabby. Like Julie and Suela I was disturbed by the level of violence. Yes, there is the fact that Dean was a very angry boy and he does have some anger-control issues obviously--goes along with that whole 'stoic at all costs' outlook. Still, I have also noticed that a majority of the demons on SPN are women and that their deaths are becoming increasingly violent. I got a similar feeling on the stabbing as the vamp killing in the Gordon ep as well. Maybe the feeling was intentionally created in order to make Ruby's revelation more meaningful. Perhaps Dean won't be so quick to execute demons now that he knows he can become one. The line separating "us" vs. monsters black and white outlook has gotten more and more blurred throughout the story arc and this seems like one more way to complicate that. Still, I am disturbed by the amount of carving being done on female bodies on television in general. I am a procedurals fan as well and between the corpses on CSI, CSI NY, Cold Case, Without a Trace and Law and Order SUV, it is a wonder there are still women alive in NY, Vegas and Philly.