Wesley: We were fighting on opposite sides, but it was the same war. Fred: but you hated her…didn't you? Wesley: It's not always about holding hands.

'Shells'


Supernatural 1: Saving People, Hunting Things - the Family Business  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though -- if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


Beverly - Dec 17, 2007 6:19:26 am PST #5027 of 10002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

I am a bit concerned, now that it's canon that Bobby knew the brothers as kids, and now that JDM has outgrown SPN and is not available for flashbacks, that Bobby Singer will become a de facto parent for the brothers in retrospect. Which would be kind of neat, but I think would change the dynamic between the three Winchesters on the inside and everybody else on the outside of their tight circle, even if people like Caleb and Jim and Bobby had occasional access. Even Bill Harvelle never met John's boys, and we were presented in S1 &2 with a rigidly guarded family unit. While I love Bobby, I don't want him to stand in for John earlier in the brothers' lives.

Also, in a crosspost to my LJ, it struck me during my first viewing, but was sort of swamped by other impressions and emotion: What if the amulet Bobby gave Sam, knowing Sam planned to give it to his dad, carried a charm to bind the wearer to the welfare and safety of the child under the wearer's protection? Or of the giver?

Although I think Dean was already deeply psychologically bound to Sam's welfare, the amulet could have heightened that devotion. The question is though, believing John would receive and wear the amulet, would Bobby interfere so far in the Winchester family dynamic?


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 17, 2007 7:14:27 am PST #5028 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I'd say no. I can see him slipping John some protective charm on the sly, but a geas to be a better father? That just doesn't read as Bobby to me.


Beverly - Dec 17, 2007 7:25:23 am PST #5029 of 10002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

At bedrock, Matt, that's my estimation of Bobby, too.


sumi - Dec 17, 2007 7:39:30 am PST #5030 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!

So mad that ABC is putting Lost up against SPN.


Beverly - Dec 17, 2007 7:45:06 am PST #5031 of 10002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

The CW has the option of moving Reaper, their big gun, into that slot. But they won't do it. SPN has never been a flagship show. Even with the retooling, not enough T&A, not funny enough, not enough appeal to what they perceive their fanbase to be.

Ah well. Maybe Lost and CSI can duke it out and kill each other off.


sumi - Dec 17, 2007 7:46:56 am PST #5032 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!

csi is pretty much out of episodes.

It will be SPN, Lost and reality tv, I think.


Polter-Cow - Dec 17, 2007 8:01:58 am PST #5033 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

So mad that ABC is putting Lost up against SPN.

Are you serious? Good God, fucking Thursdays.

Wait, shit, The Office! If they ever get to air any more episodes.

It will be SPN, Lost and reality tv, I think.

Right. Le sigh.


P.M. Marc - Dec 17, 2007 8:11:04 am PST #5034 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I'm not sure I'd call Reaper a flagship. It's doing second best of their new shows in the ratings (Gossip Girl is first) and is pulling in even fewer viewers than SPN.


sumi - Dec 17, 2007 8:17:21 am PST #5035 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!

Right.

SPN is actually doing rather well against some pretty stiff competition.

My angst is my personal angst as to why - when we will have to few scripted shows - two of the ones that I want to watch live are on at the same damn time!


Micole - Dec 17, 2007 9:16:31 am PST #5036 of 10002
I've been working on a song about the difference between analogy and metaphor.

Count me in with the people who think Bobby might do a protection charm (esp. since the amulet is apparently of Mithras, the soldier's god) but not a fatherhood geas. I don't think we need to look for supernatural reasons for Dean's devotions; the show's certainly offered enough natural ones.

I am more concerned about what the showcasing of Bobby is doing to the present dynamic than how it might retrofit the past.