It was SO much better than the watch-from-the-hall writing for that Mini-Dean kid earlier in the season.

Yo, writers, speech patterns and musical tastes aren't passed on genetically.

Yo, writers, speech patterns and musical tastes aren't passed on genetically.

And thank god for that, because otherwise, I'd have a large collection of Neil Diamond. t shudders

(Of course, I did confess to a friend at work to day that I can never decide if my weird and occasional Hall and Oates affection is ironic or not. My musical tastes, while possibly better than my mother's, remain questionable.)

I have both Neil Diamond and Hall and Oates in my collection. Of course, I also like Michael Macdonald's music, or at least his voice, and I don't really care if it's ironic or not.

So far K-Bug seems to have a genetic attraction to the same kind of music I like. CJ...well, he has grabbed the more questionable artists from my collection.

I need the Supernatural Soundtrack. Actually, I take that back. I probably own at least 75% of the music from the show.

Hmm.

My heart, she is made of stone.

I thought that was awkward and clunky and anvilicious as hell. The emotional sense was there, and I liked the canonical information we got -- how on earth they kept the secret about Mary's death and the existence of monsters from Sam for 8 years is beyond me -- but the writing just felt ... bad.

OTOH, after seeing Nutty's LJ post, I was prepared for it to be way more emo-porny than it was.

I am however disappointed that they had to make John blow off Christmas with his children in order to make Sam bond even closer to Dean. Does Kripke realize how completely fucked up these guys are?

Also, I hereby call for a moratorium on having other characters who do not know the Winchesters calling them "boys". Makes no sense. Fellas would work, or guys. But not boys: Dean's pushing 30, and in no way a boy anymore.

I think I would make an exception to the "boys" thing for thousands-years-old gods, personally.

But, then, my grandmother routinely refers to people old enough to have kids in school as "girls"

I think I enjoyed the watch-and-post more than the ep itself. I mean, I enjoyed the ep, but I think I found the flailing and love and thinky thoughts more wonderful than the ep itself. Am I a bad fan?

Also, my bad on the Meadowsweet/Meadow Rue mix-up. I am a bad gardener. Thalictrum is not Filipendula. I was, uh, erm... drunk?

Although I find it a bit of a stretch that they'd kept Sammy in the dark for so long, but on the other hand it does feed into the fact that Sam's been attuned to the more normal life. Where Dean was indoctrinated by fire, literally, Sam was raised in the dark, living a half-life and not knowing why, thinking he's normal and yet knowing he's not and not knowing why. That would definitely separate him from the pack. In trying to protect him, they alienated him.

In trying to protect him, they alienated him.

Oh, that's some smart thinkiness right there, Juliebird. Yeah.

That's a really good point, Juliebird.

Kids grasp more than you think they will. Especially vibes. Sam would have understood, intuitively, for a long time that there were secrets and that they were a very different family in more ways than simply moving around a lot and living in shitbox motels.

Eight is possibly a little old to be completely in the dark, but at the same time he obviously had suspicions for long enough to poke around a little on his own, *and* work up the courage to broach the subject. Kids hate change, as a general rule. Asking means receiving an answer you might not want, so Sam might have been a little bit complicit in holding off yet more weirdness as long as he could.

I hated them making John miss Christmas, too, Consuela. It seemed unnecessarily cruel, and I like to believe John wouldn't have done that unless he was laid up in the hospital. But then Sam wouldn't have given Dean the amulet, so.

I really didn't care for the kid playing Wee!Dean, but then I also didn't mind that John missed Christmas. I mean, if he's on a hunt, he's on a hunt. The man's obsessed. I really don't expect his obsession to stop for a holiday he probably doesn't believe in anymore. He's sacrificed so many other family values, and perhaps even lost sight of what a family should be in the normal sense... Christmas is just another day. With the loss of Mary, I'm sure that all those occassions, all those holidays, became meaningless to him. That everything became The Hunt and keeping his kids alive. Holidays are moments, ceremonies, to mark an event, something special. But to John, these have now become meaningless trivialities. Possibily the only events he memorializes are his children's birthdays... if he knows what's good for him (I know he's dead now, but I'll kick his ass anyway)