Well, if we followed the recipe...should be cake. A demon-violence-free-zone cake.

Lorne ,'Why We Fight'


Supernatural 1: Saving People, Hunting Things - the Family Business  

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Ailleann - Dec 14, 2007 9:13:50 am PST #4986 of 10002
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That said, I believe wicked pissed would be an understatement for John's reaction afterwards.

Yeah, cause Dean really needs something else for John to irrationally blame on him.


Lee - Dec 14, 2007 9:15:36 am PST #4987 of 10002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

But when they got the journal, Dean said it was Dad's prized possession, and his bible, and other things like that. I just don't see him knowingly going anywhere without it back then.

Which makes this:

That said, I believe wicked pissed would be an understatement for John's reaction afterwards.

Very true.


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 14, 2007 9:15:40 am PST #4988 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I don't think Whedon was ANY subtler about his Daddy issues.

In fact, I think his Daddy issues had way, way less nuance. Which is scary.

Yeah, from watching Mutant Enemy shows one would conclude that Roger Burkle was the only father in human history who was both present and caring.


Lee - Dec 14, 2007 9:17:21 am PST #4989 of 10002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Angel cared. Sure, he slit his kid's throat, but he did it with love.


Beverly - Dec 14, 2007 10:06:57 am PST #4990 of 10002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Okay, upon deeper reflection and thought, I retract my accusation. Yeah, Whedon dad issues trump most people's.

*If* the hunt went well and John didn't feel the need to make immediate notes, or *if* the hunt went bad and John had to find medical aid, he might not have noticed the absence of the journal. Those are the only things I can see saving Dean's butt. Because it would have been Dean who paid, of course. First for not keeping an adequate eye on Sam, second for allowing Sam to steal the journal without being detected, and third because John wouldn't yell at his baby boy.

Were the brothers supposed to be 13 and 9 in this ep's flashbacks? They showed the date, didn't they? My failure at subtraction is showing.


Ailleann - Dec 14, 2007 10:09:38 am PST #4991 of 10002
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Were the brothers supposed to be 13 and 9 in this ep's flashbacks?

It was Christmas 1991, which would make Sammy 8 and Dean 12, almost 13.


Beverly - Dec 14, 2007 11:15:04 am PST #4992 of 10002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Okay, do I need to point out the irony here, that if Sam is 8 or 9 in this ep, that the Dean of, "When you were little, you couldn't have been more than five...I just wanted you to stay a kid. Just a little longer." would have been a nine-year-old Dean.


Ailleann - Dec 14, 2007 11:27:53 am PST #4993 of 10002
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Already jaded. At nine. You really are damaged, Dean.

(That was a really jaded 12-year-old, by the way. And also maybe harboring a wee bit of resentment against Sam, who still got to be innocent and not know what really happened to their mom and what is out there in the dark?)


sumi - Dec 14, 2007 11:32:33 am PST #4994 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!

(That was a really jaded 12-year-old, by the way. And also maybe harboring a wee bit of resentment against Sam, who still got to be innocent and not know what really happened to their mom and what is out there in the dark?)

And yet, still doing his best to make sure that Sam believes that their dad came through.


Ailleann - Dec 14, 2007 12:01:21 pm PST #4995 of 10002
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And yet, still doing his best to make sure that Sam believes that their dad came through.

::gets misty, yet again::