I'm not evil again. Why does everyone think that?

Angel ,'Sleeper'


Supernatural 1: Saving People, Hunting Things - the Family Business  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though -- if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


Amy - Jul 23, 2007 6:54:21 pm PDT #331 of 10002
Because books.

I will never forget the squee at SF2F, all the "Paddywhack!" which I didn't truly get at the time, because even though I'd started watching, Ben steered me back into Survivor for a time there.

But that squee was legendary.


smonster - Jul 23, 2007 7:09:56 pm PDT #332 of 10002
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

But that squee was legendary.

Oh, yeah. That. Hee!


smonster - Jul 23, 2007 7:18:01 pm PDT #333 of 10002
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Looking back in my lj, I did find this chunk of discussion about Sam's powers after watching Shadow:

smonster: See, it's great b/c usually that whole 'discovering new uncontrollable powers' thing is limited to girls.

amyth: Oh, Sam is totally the girl on this show.

smonster: I know, but he's got a dick, so my point still holds.

Which is a very superficial discussion of a complicated topic that would doubtless include words like 'gender-normative,' 'coding,' and many other grad school terms.

Man, amyth and I never did write our paper. It was going to be called "I Am My Brother's Keeper; Complementary Masculinities in Supernatural."


P.M. Marc - Jul 23, 2007 7:34:20 pm PDT #334 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Amyth? Is so, so wrong about which one's the girl.

But then, my unwritten paper is titled "Dean and Demeter: Every Day is Mother's Day" or something and I've been known to burble about how Dean can be read as commentary on the sacrifices of the stay at home parent..


Beverly - Jul 23, 2007 7:37:53 pm PDT #335 of 10002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

First half of first season, though, Sam was awfully girly, and Dean was very butch. It took a while to see through those masks.


P.M. Marc - Jul 23, 2007 7:40:09 pm PDT #336 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Yeah, but by Shadow, I think it was pretty well established which one secretly reads Cosmo and watches Lifetime. So I still think my beloved Amyth is wrong like a wrong thing that's wrong.

Although guess I can leave room for the interpretation that John actually had two daughters...


Cass - Jul 23, 2007 11:18:41 pm PDT #337 of 10002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

But fall I did, and if I can claim that I played a part in pulling some of you in after me, then I'm a proud fangirl.
Be proud, baby.

Between you, amyth and Plei, I got entangled and just so damn invested. Then Lee brought S1 dvds and I was lost forever.

Though early S1 does remind me of why I didn't stay at first. A mini-horror movie each week? No, thank you. I practice judicious watching through my fingers with this show.

But that squee was legendary.
It really, really was...


Anne W. - Jul 24, 2007 1:44:18 am PDT #338 of 10002
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

But then, my unwritten paper is titled "Dean and Demeter: Every Day is Mother's Day" or something and I've been known to burble about how Dean can be read as commentary on the sacrifices of the stay at home parent.

I would read that paper. IJS.

That's one of the things that intrigues me about Dean. There is so much about the character that is stereotypically macho, but it didn't take long (probably because I was reading y'all's commentary) for me to spot that Dean's role is as much maternal as it is fraternal.

I think this jumped out at me the most in DMB when Dean was trying to get John and Sam to back down from their head-butting contest.


shrift - Jul 24, 2007 5:39:13 am PDT #339 of 10002
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

I started watching SPN because Everyone Was Doing It, and I figured I'd give the first season a shot. I'm not really into horror or generic WB pretty, so I didn't expect to like it. I watched a couple of episodes and thought, hey, it was a neat little show, maybe I could go with it.

And then Dean hit me like a freight train.

It's not that he's pretty, although it certainly helps; it's just that he's so complicated and unlikely and broken and problematically gendered!


Amy - Jul 24, 2007 5:45:40 am PDT #340 of 10002
Because books.

It's not that he's pretty, although it certainly helps; it's just that he's so complicated and unlikely and broken and problematically gendered!

Oh, I want to pet this sentence and hold it close.