Well, look who just popped open a fresh can of venom.

Xander ,'Empty Places'


Supernatural 1: Saving People, Hunting Things - the Family Business  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though -- if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


Theresa - Aug 15, 2007 12:45:11 pm PDT #1289 of 10002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

Austin, I grabbed your quote merely as representative.

I think you were right to use it. I was interchanging the terms incorrectly. I would agree with your definitions. I do think that that particular Darla/Angel scene was maybe violent sex in theory, but was sexualized violence in application. Showing a beautiful, young, human-looking woman being thrown through glass and enjoying it as foreplay (despite knowing she is a vampire and could handle it), strikes me as the latter. She was filmed in beautiful young woman mode, not vampire demon mode. I love the show, that scene just always bothered me.

And talking about the impala's bench seats takes me to a completely different place. One of good and right and true sex. It is the land of happy.


smonster - Aug 15, 2007 12:46:46 pm PDT #1290 of 10002
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Well, I certainly didn't create the vid, and I've only watched it twice. So this is IMHO, cutting and pasting from upthread:

Here's a breakdown of tropes I see in the vid:

  • Women as victims (frequency)

  • The sexualization of violence through staging and filming (women scantily clad, dying in bedrooms, etc.)

  • Evil women, with or without a sexual component to their evilness (Woman in White, Crossroads demon, Meg)

I'd have to watch it again to see if I think sexual violence should be added to that list.


smonster - Aug 15, 2007 12:55:36 pm PDT #1291 of 10002
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Glad the definitions seem clear to people who aren't in my head.

that particular Darla/Angel scene was maybe violent sex in theory, but was sexualized violence in application.

I think this is a good example of overlapping areas - sexualized violence and violent sex. I would still say not sexual violence, but even that could be debated. Excellent point that Darla was filmed in woman mode, not vampire mode. Now I want to rewatch that scene and pay attention to the camera angles and such.

Wow. I haven't posted this prolifically on Buffistas in YEARS. Wow.

eta - and I've killed the thread. FTW!

etaa - juliana, looking forward to hearing your reaction on the vid. i think you'll like it, for values of like that include "deeply disturbed."


P.M. Marc - Aug 15, 2007 1:08:24 pm PDT #1292 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

You haven't killed the thread! I just decided Working At Home included popping in a DVD and watching Route 666.

RUN, MR ROBINSON!!! Run!!!

Nooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ah, the sweet smell of cheese.


P.M. Marc - Aug 15, 2007 1:11:04 pm PDT #1293 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Oh, cranky Sam.

You know, she's wooden, but she's very pretty.


Atropa - Aug 15, 2007 1:11:17 pm PDT #1294 of 10002
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

juliana, be warned that the vid will possibly earworm you. I never thought I'd contemplate buying that song (or heck, anything by that performer) off of iTunes, but I can't get it out of my head.


smonster - Aug 15, 2007 1:18:30 pm PDT #1295 of 10002
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

I just decided Working At Home included popping in a DVD and watching Route 666.

Well, shit, since I decided Working at Work involved extensive posting in this thread, that sounds fair.

sisabet's post about the vid. (she's a co-creator)

Jilli, I've been earwormed too, but I actually love that song. Put it on my bestest mix tape ever, the one that chronicled a seriously fucked up relationship and the aftermath. "Violet" ended Side One. Oh, mix tapes.


Amy - Aug 15, 2007 1:51:23 pm PDT #1296 of 10002
Because books.

I love that song, too.

My Working at Home today has included reading here, reading porn, and watching reruns of Top Chef. Also, possibly, writing a little porn.

My boss is very understanding.

smonster, I love that you're here! And I think that's a great list of definitions.


Atropa - Aug 15, 2007 3:54:08 pm PDT #1297 of 10002
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Jilli, I've been earwormed too, but I actually love that song.

I actually really like that song, and some other stuff off that album. I just have issues with Courtney Love.


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 15, 2007 5:49:15 pm PDT #1298 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

If they are the ones to finally use the holy water pistols they will win. Just win.

Not if they have a comparative religion consultant on the payroll. IIRC, according to Roman Catholic doctrine holy water has to be transported in vials especially consecrated for the purpose or it deconsecrates itself upon being removed from the font and touching anything else. They'd be squirting normal tap water. Communion wine, however, might theoretically retain its holiness.

Until Dean drank it, anyway.