Sweetie, we're crooks. If everything were right, we'd be in jail.

Wash ,'Serenity'


Bureaucracy 4: Like Job. No, really, just like Job

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: Jon B, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych, msbelle, shrift, Dana, Laura

Stompy Emerita: ita, DXMachina


Jon B. - Jul 18, 2007 4:03:55 pm PDT #85 of 6785
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I feel badly for the people who might want to discuss such things and have nowhere to do it.

There's plenty of places to do it. Just not here.

We're already bending our carefully established rules to reopen the bookclub thread without a vote. We're doing it because we don't have enough time to propose, discuss and vote, and because we have been able to consense on it. The spoiler issue is more contentious and (I think) would really require a formal proposal. But since there's no time for that, the spoiler lovers are stuck this time.


le nubian - Jul 18, 2007 4:08:50 pm PDT #86 of 6785
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

There's plenty of places to do it. Just not here.

Understood, but technically that could be true for literally every conversation we have here.

I don't have a dog in this. I actually am avoiding spoilers for this. It just seems in a lot of our bureaucratic conversations recently that people are getting shut out.


Steph L. - Jul 18, 2007 4:11:15 pm PDT #87 of 6785
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

the chance for inadvertently spoilage is way high in any thread and people care about the stuff A LOT. They've been waiting for this freakin' book for *years* and it's two days! Two lousy days! Even with white-fonting, there are reactions around white-fonts, etc., that often give the game away.

Seriously. I said to SA maybe 3 hours ago that until I have HP7 in my hands, about the only place I can go on the internet and NOT worry about being spoiled is b.org.

But if I accidentally hit "Read New," went to Spoilers, and got smacked with a spoiler for Harry Potter in a thread *for TV shows*, I'd be furious.

It's just 2 days.


bon bon - Jul 18, 2007 4:11:31 pm PDT #88 of 6785
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Understood, but technically that could be true for literally every conversation we have here.

What do you mean?


DebetEsse - Jul 18, 2007 4:14:20 pm PDT #89 of 6785
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I'm a bit worried about spoilers in Literary. It seems unfair to Bullshit a consensus on the issue, but, yeah, I'm one of the invested people. If the answer is just that I need to stay away until I've read, I can accept that, but I feel a little fuzzy as to what is and is not okay in there.

eta: I mean this largely in the "commentary around wf gives things away" sense.


le nubian - Jul 18, 2007 4:14:42 pm PDT #90 of 6785
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

What do you mean?

There are plenty of places on the net to have all kinds of conversations. Obviously people can discuss spoilers elsewhere. That's all I meant.


amych - Jul 18, 2007 4:15:35 pm PDT #91 of 6785
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

I feel badly for the people who might want to discuss such things and have nowhere to do it.

If we'd said, oh, a month ago, "hey, I'll bet some crazy person is going to post photos of every page of HP and a massive kerfuffle will erupt about whether they're real or not; we can fit that into the spoilers thread, no?" I would've been all for discussing it with enough time for spoiler folk to weigh in, warning notices/jump links posted, etc. etc. etc.". At this point, I just have to say "what Jon said".

(Note: don't care one way or t'other about HP, but messing with spoiler policies on no notice is way bigger than what's covered in the previous consensus.) (And hey, nothing wrong with linking people to discussions elsewhere, as long as the links are marked as spoilery.)


brenda m - Jul 18, 2007 4:19:42 pm PDT #92 of 6785
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I think the only options are to open BC 2 right away, and probably retitle it HP SPOILERS AHOY SERIOUSLY YO (2), or to wait until midnight whichever night and just hold it until then. I don't have a dog in this fight, so I won't weigh in on which of those, but anything else is just open big ass cans of worms.


Dana - Jul 18, 2007 4:21:54 pm PDT #93 of 6785
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

This is like the prologue to the Potterdammerung.


Ginger - Jul 18, 2007 4:24:09 pm PDT #94 of 6785
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I had not thought my suggestion through and I have now joined the "no spoilers" club. I'm normally a spoiler whore, even for books, but this is a special occasion.