I caught her on a park bench, making out with a *chaos* demon! Have you ever seen a chaos demon? They're all slime and antlers.

Spike ,'Sleeper'


Bureaucracy 4: Like Job. No, really, just like Job

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: Jon B, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych, msbelle, shrift, Dana, Laura

Stompy Emerita: ita, DXMachina


Consuela - Feb 12, 2021 5:47:55 pm PST #6696 of 6785
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Yeah, Fay got pissed off and mentioned the were-monkey's manipulation and fake death and all...


-t - Feb 12, 2021 6:06:22 pm PST #6697 of 6785
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I honestly can't imagine we would be all that interesting to anyone who dropped by because of that, just having a visceral MEEP about it


Topic!Cindy - Feb 12, 2021 6:35:36 pm PST #6698 of 6785
What is even happening?

I don't think Fay mentioned B.org by name, FWIW. I also think Gus sold TV Tropes to someone years ago. Nobody there probably even cares/knows/thinks about us.

Do we also want to consider removing Jossverse reference in certain thread summaries and descriptions? For example, those references in threads like Fan Fiction, Literary, and Other Media don't seem particularly relevant at this point.

I would like that.

Do we want to put something on our "About" page? Our current one is pretty bare bones. [link] Was it just put up as a place holder?

Here's an archive of the "About This Site" page from the old site. [link]

If we want to flesh it out the new page at all, we could also add a disclaimer. My mind keeps going to the beginning of SMG's statement [link] :

While I m proud to have my name associated with Buffy Summers, I don't want to be forever associated with the name Joss Whedon....

I keep thinking of riffing straight off that, with something like:

While we are proud to have derived our name from Buffy the Vampire Slayer, like the lead actress herself, we don't want to be forever associated with the show's creator. Through the years, his former spouse and several cast members have recounted behavior that is antithetical to our values. We're not throwing out the babies, but we are through with the brackish bathwater.


Trudy Booth - Feb 12, 2021 10:00:20 pm PST #6699 of 6785
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

It would be nice if we could do it without name-checking him - what with going to all the trouble of taking it out all over the place.


amyparker - Feb 12, 2021 10:11:56 pm PST #6700 of 6785
You've got friends to have good times with. When you need to share the trauma of a badly-written book with someone, that's when you go to family.

Would "with the show's creator" be enough?


DebetEsse - Feb 12, 2021 10:13:45 pm PST #6701 of 6785
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I was just coming over, prompted by the Twitter thread, to ask if anyone has ever reached out to the new owners of That Site, as they still namecheck Fuckhead on their staff page, just so that they know.

I think a statement like Cindy has there is good. I can see value in a "Let Us Speak Of Him No More" approach and not including his name. I can't imagine anyone would find it confusing (maybe in another decade, but bridges, coming to, etc)


Topic!Cindy - Feb 12, 2021 11:16:35 pm PST #6702 of 6785
What is even happening?

Good point, Trudy.

Would "with the show's creator" be enough?

I like that, amyparker. I'm going to edit his name out of my previous post.


Laura - Feb 13, 2021 8:24:09 am PST #6703 of 6785
Our wings are not tired.

Do new registrations have to be approved by a stompy or do they just go through?

Good question. I don't know. I'm going to have Brendon register to see what happens.


BigOwl - Feb 13, 2021 8:30:02 am PST #6704 of 6785
Judgmental Jaguar

This is really Laura. Just logged in as Brendon to test. New users don't require any admin action. Also, I don't actually expect he will ever post unless I am incapacitated, and then he would probably just log in as me!


Laura - Feb 13, 2021 8:32:32 am PST #6705 of 6785
Our wings are not tired.

Would "with the show's creator" be enough?

Good idea. I can edit my discussion posts above too.