Fire bad. Tree pretty.

Buffy ,'Chosen'


Bureaucracy 4: Like Job. No, really, just like Job

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: Jon B, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych, msbelle, shrift, Dana, Laura

Stompy Emerita: ita, DXMachina


Cass - Jun 30, 2012 2:03:05 pm PDT #5351 of 6786
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

but I wanted to clarify that.

Ah. I had misunderstood. Thank you.

I still don't agree with you deleting but do agree it was entirely within your rights. But I don't feel that anger now.


Fred Pete - Jul 02, 2012 6:20:08 am PDT #5352 of 6786
Ann, that's a ferret.

First, I recognize that I've become someone who reads the board far more than I post. So my voice may not mean as much as it once did. But anyway...

I don't see a fight here. I see people with strong feelings expressing disagreement politely, courteously, and respectfully.

I'm also deeply saddened that posts have been removed. As a failed historian, I believe that the Internet offers a huge opportunity to the field because it allows future historians to discover what (relatively) ordinary people said, thought, and did at critical moments in history as well as in everyday life. Removing posts distorts that history.

On to the substance of the topic. I would strongly oppose any link to the discussion (as originally posted or with posts removed). I haven't seen anything about the TV Tropes mess other than what I've read here. But it seems that people have very strong feelings and no qualms about expressing them. Somebody is likely to feel aggrieved if we say anything. And linking to the discussion would make it too easy for anyone who perceives a grievance to mess with the board. Above all, I don't want anyone to mess with the board. (New posters wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing -- but I'd like to see them fit in with existing culture and/or take the board in a positive direction. Anyone who joined because of a perceived grievance against the board would not be likely to do that.)

I'm a little less concerned about someone acting on behalf of the board to tell a third party the story. However, before we do that, we'd need to resolve several matters. (1) Who would do the talking? (2) What would that person say? (3) What benefit (either to the board or more generally) would be gained by telling the story?

If I misunderstand the situation, my apologies. It was a rough weekend involving power outage and several car trips with very distressed cats. I hope to be fully awake by Wednesday.


Kat - Jul 02, 2012 4:59:11 pm PDT #5353 of 6786
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

I agree with you all on the whole we should just let it go because, so what? Feelings hurt, guy's a jerk. The end.

But also, FTR, I had suggested a donation because I thought he was sockpuppet but I had no way of getting people to look for an obit other than to say, "Were there charities he liked?"

I do wish that Cindy hadn't deleted because that is an important part of our history (clearly).

Also, if you think our kerfuffles are bad, imagine 6000 AP English teachers on a mailing list and you have the current kerfuffles I read on the internet.


§ ita § - Jul 06, 2012 6:25:52 pm PDT #5354 of 6786
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't mean to get all Hec on anyone, but why is there a cat post in Press?


DebetEsse - Jul 06, 2012 6:27:46 pm PDT #5355 of 6786
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I was rather wondering that, as well.


§ ita § - Jul 06, 2012 6:32:48 pm PDT #5356 of 6786
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

This is a bullshit consensus I can get behind.

I'ma nuke it. I'm just used to cleaning up replies, not wandering original posts.


DavidS - Jul 06, 2012 6:49:51 pm PDT #5357 of 6786
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I'ma nuke it.

I consense!


Strix - Jul 06, 2012 9:23:14 pm PDT #5358 of 6786
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Heh, ita ! is herding cats for the board now...


le nubian - Sep 08, 2012 3:18:34 pm PDT #5359 of 6786
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Between my move and other things, I had not read this thread in 2 months.

Holy fuck I cannot believe what I missed.

Are the deleted posts now restored?


Liese S. - Sep 08, 2012 5:38:34 pm PDT #5360 of 6786
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Nope.

Not as far as I know. There are threadsucks of them, though.