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Bureaucracy 4: Like Job. No, really, just like Job

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: Jon B, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych, msbelle, shrift, Dana, Laura

Stompy Emerita: ita, DXMachina


brenda m - Feb 13, 2012 5:52:39 pm PST #5131 of 6786
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

My only clarification would be simple majority of votes expressing a preference (i.e. excluding "no preference"), just to be super clear.

(Might be the same point ita ! is making?)

Nice job.


Jon B. - Feb 13, 2012 6:31:19 pm PST #5132 of 6786
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Jon B. - Feb 13, 2012 6:37:21 pm PST #5133 of 6786
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

A couple of corrections (in red)

Guidelines/Rules for Voting
1. By the end of the 4 day discussion period, the proposer will craft a final ballot version of the proposal. Proposers may change the wording of the final ballot based on the discussion or they may choose to use their original wording. We encourage the ballots to be Yes or No answers, but it is not required. [no preference was removed as an option. See here]
2. The proposer will post the final ballot text to the Lightbulbs thread [no need to email it to me; I read the thread].
3. Jon B will set up a web ballot, post the final ballot text, the link to the ballot and the dates and times of voting in the Sunnydale Press thread.
4. The web ballot will be open for 3 days

Guidelines/Rules for Voters
1. [No Preference was removed as an option. See link above]
2. If there are any questions during the voting period, they are asked in the Bureacracy thread


aurelia - Feb 13, 2012 7:11:53 pm PST #5134 of 6786
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

The purpose of the discussion is so that all who have an opinion can be heard. It can also be used as a place to come to a consensus on the proposal that will be made.

Does this mean consensus on the wording of the proposal? If so, maybe this should say something like "The purpose of the discussion is to allow all who have an opinion on the proposal and/or the wording of the proposal to be heard."


§ ita § - Feb 13, 2012 7:39:36 pm PST #5135 of 6786
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

You no preference unpreferring people. I say Sophia should just leave it in. We can pretend that all never happened.


JenP - Feb 13, 2012 8:33:33 pm PST #5136 of 6786

It's sad when you (I) can't really remember that there was a particular debate or, when reminded, remember which side I was on. Or if I even chose one. Did we vote about un-no preferencing? We are awesome and funny.

I like the polished version.


DebetEsse - Feb 13, 2012 8:38:11 pm PST #5137 of 6786
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Jen, people even voted, "no preference" on the no preference vote.


Sophia Brooks - Feb 14, 2012 1:25:16 am PST #5138 of 6786
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Wow. I have no recollection of that at all. None. and I probably had an opinion.

Does this mean consensus on the wording of the proposal? If so, maybe this should say something like "The purpose of the discussion is to allow all who have an opinion on the proposal and/or the wording of the proposal to be heard."

I was trying to reflect (not sure if I did) that not only the wording of the proposal, but the proposal itself could change through discussion. It is just up to the proposer. I personally feel strongly that the proposer should, as a good citizen of the community, shepherd the proposal through making changes that reflect the discussion, so I may be showing my bias.

Also, the valid vote thing brings up a question. I am assuming that any proposal which is withdrawn r does not meet 42 can be re-opened for discussion. But now that there is no "no preference" I am not sure that is true.


JenP - Feb 14, 2012 4:19:17 am PST #5139 of 6786

Wow. I have no recollection of that at all. None. and I probably had an opinion.

At least I'm in good company!

Jen, people even voted, "no preference" on the no preference vote.

Ha! Love.

I am assuming that any proposal which is withdrawn r does not meet 42 can be re-opened for discussion. But now that there is no "no preference" I am not sure that is true.

I seem to recall (and we know what that's worth) that if something doesn't reach 42 votes, then it is supposed to get tabled for the allotted time. Not sure about withdrawn.


Sue - Feb 14, 2012 4:24:05 am PST #5140 of 6786
hip deep in pie

Jen, I think you're right. I believe there was one vote that didn't hit 42 and that it could be re-proposed after 6 months.