I don't like vampires. I'm gonna take a stand and say they're not good.

Xander ,'Beneath You'


Bureaucracy 4: Like Job. No, really, just like Job

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: Jon B, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych, msbelle, shrift, Dana, Laura

Stompy Emerita: ita, DXMachina


le nubian - Aug 01, 2007 7:08:39 am PDT #488 of 6786
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I've been a participant in Buffy-related threads with this group since TT, through WX, and of course here. I can't participate in Natter or Bitches regularly because my work demands are pretty overwhelming at times. I still manage to watch an awful lot of tv, watch movies, read Harry Potter, and consume Buffy Season 8 comic books.

I must admit I chafed a bit at some remarks in a Voting discussion (last week I think) that linked to the TV Forum at WX (which I am a forum owner) and used that as an example of what they didn't want buffistas to become. I suppose I took the comment more negatively than it was intended.

Also, it perhaps was a joke upthread that someone didn't want new people in Natter - that's kind of how it has felt to me whenever I've put my toe in - but I think some of the threads and discussions can be insular.

Is there room for those of use who enjoy a certain relationship to the board (through subscription to particular threads and/or lurking) versus those who enjoy Natter and Bitches and longer term relationships and interactions? I happen to think so.

Do we need polls to come to this conclusion? I'm not sure.

Perhaps we need a cap on the number of individual show threads (no more than 10?) that are opened and close some that don't generate enough discussion - (as defined by 50? a week during a regular season).


Hayden - Aug 01, 2007 7:09:18 am PDT #489 of 6786
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Democracy, which I believe is the most fair system of governance in history, has a couple of problems. One is that the deliberations required for consensus or even majority consensus are imperfect at best and at worst require unsavory compromises and frustrating inefficiencies (such as repeated discussions of pretty much the same issue). Another problem is that smaller, more tight-knit communities are subject to the preferences and whims of the larger masses. This seems to be the major concern of this discussion.

So, maybe we need representational government here to secure the rights and preferences of the long-time b.org community. The Stompies aren't elected, but they implement the decisions of the majority. Maybe instead of always sending every issue out to a general vote, we should have an elected Stompy Advisory Committee who will vote on some issues and choose to send others to the general b.org populace.


Vortex - Aug 01, 2007 7:10:47 am PDT #490 of 6786
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Maybe instead of always sending every issue out to a general vote, we should have an elected Stompy Advisory Committee who will vote on some issues and choose to send others to the general b.org populace.

Why don't we table this idea until we settle this one? We are all too likely to go off on a tangent, and that's the last thing we need right now.


Dana - Aug 01, 2007 7:10:58 am PDT #491 of 6786
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

I must admit I chafed a bit at some remarks in a Voting discussion (last week I think) that linked to the TV Forum at WX (which I am a forum owner) and used that as an example of what they didn't want buffistas to become. I suppose I took the comment more negatively than it was intended.

I hope my linking didn't give that impression, because it's the opposite situation for me. I use that forum to talk about TV, and it's obviously a different experience for me, but one which absolutely works.

Also, I'd like to remind everyone that I've been here the longest, because I think it's cool. I'm never first in anything.


Sophia Brooks - Aug 01, 2007 7:13:30 am PDT #492 of 6786
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Why don't we table this idea until we settle this one? We are all too likely to go off on a tangent, and that's the last thing we need right now.

I agree.


le nubian - Aug 01, 2007 7:13:51 am PDT #493 of 6786
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Dana, I think someone else linked it - a name I didn't really recognize (perhaps you and another linked) and it seemed to me it was linked in a negative way. Perhaps it was a response to your post?


Hayden - Aug 01, 2007 7:22:24 am PDT #494 of 6786
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Seems to me that the solution to the governance issue would also address the manifest destiny issue, but maybe that's just me. Fine with tabling.


P.M. Marc - Aug 01, 2007 7:26:08 am PDT #495 of 6786
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

So, maybe we need representational government here to secure the rights and preferences of the long-time b.org community.

Can we table it possibly forever? Please?

Perhaps we need a cap on the number of individual show threads (no more than 10?) that are opened and close some that don't generate enough discussion

I think the notion's come up, and if we go more to an individual show threads model, it's not a bad notion to keep in mind.


le nubian - Aug 01, 2007 7:27:06 am PDT #496 of 6786
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Corwood, your governance suggestion hits me the wrong way. There have to be other alternatives that wouldn't alienate groups of people.


Sophia Brooks - Aug 01, 2007 7:29:52 am PDT #497 of 6786
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I think it is going to hit a lot of people the wrong way, and would really like to avoid the conversation.

Although a poll will likely cause more navelgazing in some ways, I see no other way to figure out what people think. I think msbelle is going to complile some of the questions, which is a good step.