Also, you can tell it's not gonna have a happy ending when the main guy's all bumpy.

Tara ,'First Date'


Bureaucracy 4: Like Job. No, really, just like Job

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: Jon B, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych, msbelle, shrift, Dana, Laura

Stompy Emerita: ita, DXMachina


JenP - Jul 31, 2007 4:52:37 pm PDT #455 of 6786

I think the poll, should a poll happen, should include a question about general satisfaction with the board:

Do you like b.org the way it is? What would be the one thing you would add to it? remove from it? If you have dissatisfaction, can you pinpoint reasons why? things too fast/too slow/people no longer here/people I don't know/discussion in places I can't go/not the discussions I want/general malaise for "the way things were"/I like being upset so I'll never be happy with anything/other

I agree with this.

d, I don't think of you as a lurker (I also think that lurking is value neutral, FWIW) - I recognize you when you post. I really think of lurkers as people who only read along and never post. And I want to know about them (because I am, apparently, insanely curious about this issue), yet they are unknowable. It's a conundrum. For me.


Jesse - Jul 31, 2007 4:55:26 pm PDT #456 of 6786
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I can't really contribute to the actual discussion yet, but a couple of pieces of data:

Lurkers vote. They also contribute. Not either in huge numbers, but I'm always seeing names I don't recognize. So unless there are people who only ever post in the (very few) threads I don't ever read, I'm going to call those people lurkers.

Also, remember this poll from a while back? [link] Just FYI.


Laga - Jul 31, 2007 6:32:19 pm PDT #457 of 6786
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I like how "ticky box" won.


megan walker - Jul 31, 2007 9:01:20 pm PDT #458 of 6786
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

I like how "ticky box" won.

Quite frankly, I didn't understand what that meant.


Sean K - Jul 31, 2007 9:07:39 pm PDT #459 of 6786
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Okay, so we've not only had this conversation many times already, but we've already done the poll too? Seriously, laugh or cry? Somebody please tell me.

ETA: Although the poll was only two months ago. Still, we've already done one poll.


megan walker - Jul 31, 2007 9:12:43 pm PDT #460 of 6786
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Okay, so we've not only had this conversation many times already, but we've already done the poll too?

And this surprises you why?


DavidS - Jul 31, 2007 9:15:11 pm PDT #461 of 6786
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Still, we've already done one poll.

That poll doesn't tell me information that I need.

I don't know that it's relevant that we've discussed these issues before.

Previously people decided that it wasn't an issue. But with unchecked expansion now it is an issue. Context changes the discussion.

Seriously, laugh or cry? Somebody please tell me.

Dude, breath. Stepping into Bureaucracy is a marathon commitment, not a sprint. Only the stubborn and cranky survive.


Laga - Jul 31, 2007 9:19:27 pm PDT #462 of 6786
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I am neither stubborn nor cranky but I don't seem to be able to form an opinion other than, "clicky box!" This probably has a lot to do with how much I'm still a buffista n00b. To me the site is wonderful. Yes it was a little tricky to get the hang of at first but I think that's a good thing as it discourages the easily discouraged.


libkitty - Jul 31, 2007 9:35:15 pm PDT #463 of 6786
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

Yes it was a little tricky to get the hang of at first but I think that's a good thing as it discourages the easily discouraged.

Fine conversation and no weenies.


askye - Aug 01, 2007 4:11:55 am PDT #464 of 6786
Thrive to spite them

What if we call this process a census, say The Great Buffista Census of Aught Seven :Files and Records Wants You! (or something, I’m trying for light hearted)

We can ask the questions msbelle and others have raised, but get the census out there to more people and try and get the most number of people to participate/

We could do questions like: Location – either using geography or maybe timezone

Is b.org your primary online community/ if not, is it your secondary?

How often do you access b.org? (several times a day, daily, several times a week, weekly, several times a month, monthly, only if there’s a threat of Ascension)

How often do you post? (I’m a lurker, once a year, a few times a year, monthly, several times a monthly, weeky, several times a week, daily, are you kidding? I’m always here (aka several times an hour)

What threads do you post/read?

Which thread(s) do you consider to be part of your core experience ?

What originally brought you to this community (whether it was on table talk, worldcrossing, or here): Buffy, Angel, Firefly, my friends seduced me to the Buffista side

I'm not sure if it's possible, I'm not a techy person at all, but I really think this information would be helpful.