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Bureaucracy 4: Like Job. No, really, just like Job

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: Jon B, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych, msbelle, shrift, Dana, Laura

Stompy Emerita: ita, DXMachina


msbelle - Jul 30, 2007 7:06:37 pm PDT #389 of 6786
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

so:

what threads do you post in (text box) what things you do you like and/or not like about those threads currently (text box)

what threads are essential to b.org for you (text box) would more or less activity in those threads have an affect on your enjoyment (text box)

what if anything do you feel is missing from the threads or the board(text box)


msbelle - Jul 30, 2007 7:07:56 pm PDT #390 of 6786
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

omg - that is so more huggy touchy feely than I can continue to develop. someone else must take it and run.


DavidS - Jul 30, 2007 7:13:32 pm PDT #391 of 6786
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

But who gets to decide what's best for the board if not the majority?

The discussion itself may change people's minds about what each thread vote means. The polling could clarify what we value most and how it works best.

I mean, regardless of what's polled and discussed , unless Connie withdraws her proposal, isn't whether or not we have a new Network Drama thread going to be decided by a vote on August 11th-13th?

That vote will go ahead. But we're trying to engage a larger discussion about how to handle the recurring board tension between a tight focus and a broad focus. I do think it is time for us to get a better sense of what we expect from this community and how to maintain it.

Isn't the only thing this discussion can change perhaps the way people decide to vote on the issue? Or am I missing a step here?

We've made some fairly profound changes in the past based on discussions here. It is my sense that we are looking at one of those moments where we look beyond voting our interest and creating some functional core direction that will help us make future decisions on growth. At least I hope we get a better sense of ourselves so that we don't ignore frictions and divisions which have been arising regularly over the last couple years. Some tension and disappointment is inevitable and that's okay. But it would be foolish to ignore bigger schisms if they started to emerge.

The board is whatever we decide it is. I'm arguing that now is an appropriate time to look beyond this particular vote and get some framework on how we will handle these issues going forward.


DavidS - Jul 30, 2007 7:14:57 pm PDT #392 of 6786
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

omg - that is so more huggy touchy feely than I can continue to develop. someone else must take it and run.

Maybe less squishy to start with.

Let's just try to clarify two things:

1. Board useage.
2. TV thread preferences.

One at a time.


esse - Jul 30, 2007 7:16:49 pm PDT #393 of 6786
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

Let's do that then, on Mr Poll or something that can remain anon.


Amy - Jul 30, 2007 7:17:21 pm PDT #394 of 6786
Because books.

Let's just try to clarify two things:

1. Board useage.
2. TV thread preferences.

So where are we doing this? I think this could be really valuable, but it's ultimately going to depend on how many people answer the questions.


Liese S. - Jul 30, 2007 7:17:56 pm PDT #395 of 6786
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

The only thing, Sean, is that even with us paying more now, there is always an upper limit to our resources. What has been proven is that if we thread it, we will talk. Increasing the number of threads has never resulted in fewer overall posts. So it's not an infinite number of threads we can support, technically or practically.


Denise - Jul 30, 2007 7:19:52 pm PDT #396 of 6786

We've made some fairly profound changes in the past based on discussions here.

I'm arguing that now is an appropriate time to look beyond this particular vote and get some framework on how we will handle these issues going forward.

Thanks for your explanation, David. The above two comments make it much easier to explain what I'm confused about. To the best of my knowledge, please correct me if I'm wrong, these changes that were made by discussions here are what prompted the voting procedure to begin with, no? Because people were upset by a bullshit consensus? I guess what my question is, is that whatever information this poll and discussion gives us about how thing should be handled going forward, wouldn't that decision have to be put to a vote as well?


NoiseDesign - Jul 30, 2007 7:21:11 pm PDT #397 of 6786
Our wings are not tired

Increasing the number of threads has never resulted in fewer overall posts.

Is this actually true? It seems that folks are saying the increasing the threads is sapping posts out of other threads. Do we have any data on what our overall board posting patterns have been lately?


DavidS - Jul 30, 2007 7:21:51 pm PDT #398 of 6786
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

We can set it up on Mr. Poll.

Let's do board useage then.

Let's think about what questions give us the most useful answers.

Maybe just start with very clear and distinct questions that don't create more fuzziness.

1. I read B.org:
a - several times a day
b - at least once a day
c. - several times a week
d. - at least once a week
e. - less than once a week
f. - less than once a month

2. I post on B.org:
same list.

Continue in that vein or some other set up?