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Bureaucracy 4: Like Job. No, really, just like Job

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: Jon B, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych, msbelle, shrift, Dana, Laura

Stompy Emerita: ita, DXMachina


Connie Neil - Jul 30, 2007 5:14:12 pm PDT #362 of 6786
brillig

With a bucket as huge as the proposed Broadcast Drama thread, even if someone in a non-Eastern time zone watches these programs as they air (not tape or DVR delayed), they still need to exit the thread every day when prime time starts on the East Coast and can't return until prime time is over in their time zone.

I've been doing this for years. Heaven knows the number of evenings I've watched the post counts go up in the Angel thread until after it aired in the Mountain Time Zone. It's the same with House and Bones now. I've learned to cope with the great burden that is waiting two hours to go back into a single thread on the board.


Vortex - Jul 30, 2007 5:17:04 pm PDT #363 of 6786
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

You have to pay SOME price for your gorgeous weather! :)


Kristen - Jul 30, 2007 5:20:08 pm PDT #364 of 6786

connie, I wish that, when you chose to quote me, you quoted all of what I said since I specifically remarked:

When you have a single show thread (or even a small bucket), it's not a big deal to avoid a thread for a few hours a week. When you have to avoid the same thread for 4-6 hours every day, I question its usefulness.

It wouldn't be two hours for many of us. It would be more like six hours per day, every day. Except Saturday.


askye - Jul 30, 2007 5:22:02 pm PDT #365 of 6786
Thrive to spite them

I have to say that I don't have a good idea of how many people actively post or read the board on a regular basis.

I mentioned this before, but is there some way we could take a "census" just to see how many active posters or lurkers (active lurkers being those who read the board on a regular basis but don't post) we have compared to the number of people who are voting.

We keep talking about majority and minority opinions and decisions and I'd feel better with some solid numbers to see what kind of difference between these opinions are.


NoiseDesign - Jul 30, 2007 5:29:40 pm PDT #366 of 6786
Our wings are not tired

With a single show thread it is only a three hour wait, but with something like friday nights on boxed set, there have been three shows back to back, so it's not just about waiting for the three hour time shift, it's waiting for, at times, a six hour time shift.


Denise - Jul 30, 2007 5:32:00 pm PDT #367 of 6786

With a single show thread it is only a three hour wait, but with something like friday nights on boxed set, there have been three shows back to back, so it's not just about waiting for the three hour time shift, it's waiting for, at times, a six hour time shift.

But if a bucket thread is generating conversation that really didn't exist before aren't you comparing having to wait six hours versus having to wait indefinitely becuse there's no place to discuss it?


Beverly - Jul 30, 2007 5:34:45 pm PDT #368 of 6786
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

I really like the idea David suggested of polling to find out the ways everybody uses the board. I wouldn't be surprised if there are quite a few dedicated lurkers, who follow their chosen threads faithfully, but just haven't gotten up the courage to post, and may never do.

If we could make the polls somehow so that voters would remain anonymous, and then put announcements in almost every thread so that one-thread posters and lurkers could see it and urge everybody to take the poll, we might have some idea of how to tailor functionality to suit the majority, across (you should excuse the expression) the board.

I suspect it's going to shake out with several--perhaps many--single-show threads, several smaller bucket show threads, with some tv natter allowed in Natter for those folks who don't feel comfortable in either buckets or show threads.

I have no real stake in steering the board in one direction or another. I just would like to have the most comprehensive idea what changes are wanted, and which ones will make the board better serve the greater number of people before we make irreversible ones.


DavidS - Jul 30, 2007 5:42:09 pm PDT #369 of 6786
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Thanks, Bev, I do think polling would help.

I will note that I'm not necessarily driven by a what-the-most-people-want result. For example if it was clear that thread splintering not only drained volume from Natter, but that a slower Natter was decreasing overall board viability then I think we would need to back up and say, "Let's make a smaller circle and maintain that."

I do think there is some merit to that notion. But I do think it would help to understand what maintains the core of the community before we let majority votes spread us thin.


sj - Jul 30, 2007 5:45:33 pm PDT #370 of 6786
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I think a poll is a really good idea to at least get a sense of where some of the less vocal people stand. It might help to direct the conversation because right now it feels to me like we're talking in circles.


Connie Neil - Jul 30, 2007 5:46:33 pm PDT #371 of 6786
brillig

You have to pay SOME price for your gorgeous weather! :)

Where? The two-weeks solid of hundred-degrees, no-rain, "don't leave your house if your sick/elderly/young/anything other than in good shape" blah? Please, have it, with my blessing.

It would be more like six hours per day, every day. Except Saturday.

Every person on this board watches this much TV? Every day? Except Saturday? As I assume the answer to this is No, why does the heavy user have more say than I with my two hours, two days a week? Is not the burden on the person who requires the greatest accomodation?