Riley: Oh, yeah. Sorry 'bout last time. Heard I missed out on some fun. Xander: Oh yeah, fun was had. Also frolic, merriment and near-death hijinks.

'Never Leave Me'


Bureaucracy 4: Like Job. No, really, just like Job

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: Jon B, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych, msbelle, shrift, Dana, Laura

Stompy Emerita: ita, DXMachina


Cass - Jul 30, 2007 1:12:47 pm PDT #315 of 6786
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

all I hear this summer is not that the board does not work for a subcommunity, but rather that the board does not work for individuals for individual reasons. When that is the case, I'm not sure if there's a solution. Actually, I know there is not an answer to this. If natter or bitches does not work for people the solution is just not more threads, it's modifying what you expect from the board.
This sums up my feelings so much better than I ever could myself.


JenP - Jul 30, 2007 1:18:40 pm PDT #316 of 6786

Ha! OK, so... no break then? Righty-o. I may have thoughts eventually, but right now, all I can come up with is...

Don't take away my bucket! And by this, I mean Boxed Set.

Not that anyone has actually suggested taking away my bucket. I just see that a few people are not able to use it well, and I wanted to state my position. And write bucket as many times as possible, because it doesn't sound like a real word anymore. Bucket, bucket, bucket.


Lee - Jul 30, 2007 1:19:40 pm PDT #317 of 6786
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Yes, I agree with this. I'm pro-new thread. But the upset that seemed to have caused requesting this delay in the vote was the upset of the people not wanting new threads because of their drain on Natter. I don't see how any of the above suggestions help that.

I just don't see this. It's true that I don't like the bucket threads as proposed, and that I suggested delaying the vote, but if no one else had agreed with me, I would have dropped it, but other people did, including people who want the bucket threads. It was not tied to any one specific issue; I suggested it because I honestly felt that waiting was for the best of the board as a community, for a variety of reasons.


Pix - Jul 30, 2007 1:19:45 pm PDT #318 of 6786
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

all I hear this summer is not that the board does not work for a subcommunity, but rather that the board does not work for individuals for individual reasons. When that is the case, I'm not sure if there's a solution. Actually, I know there is not an answer to this. If natter or bitches does not work for people the solution is just not more threads, it's modifying what you expect from the board.
But how many individuals does it take to become a subcommunity? I heard a lot of people expressing similar concerns about the all-or-nothing approach of bucket threads, more than I thought, actually. I expected to be a minority on the board and had modified my expectations accordingly--decided I couldn't post in Boxed Set. But during the SPN conversation, many other people said that high volume, be it in Natter or in a bucket thread, kept them from posting about TV.


amych - Jul 30, 2007 1:20:33 pm PDT #319 of 6786
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Don't take away my bucket!

You have no idea how much I've been wanting to name the next lightbulbs this.


§ ita § - Jul 30, 2007 1:20:44 pm PDT #320 of 6786
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I say that we shouldn't consider delayed viewing.

I ask again--why not consider a solution that takes that into consideration? The only one I can think of is single-thread-per-show, but why are you discarding it?


sumi - Jul 30, 2007 1:22:02 pm PDT #321 of 6786
Art Crawl!!!

Maybe my thread for each day of the week thing isn't so ridiculous? I mean - if the problem is that you can't watch Monday's tv 'til Wednesday then that would solve the problem.

It's different if you have 4 conflicting Monday shows that you're trying to watch and not be spoiled for.


Vortex - Jul 30, 2007 1:22:50 pm PDT #322 of 6786
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I ask again--why not consider a solution that takes that into consideration?

because each person will have different delayed needs, unless you want to do a blanket thing like whitefont for 24 hours.


Kevin - Jul 30, 2007 1:24:13 pm PDT #323 of 6786
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Question: do people think anything was learned from the Experimental Threads?


Denise - Jul 30, 2007 1:25:55 pm PDT #324 of 6786

I just don't see this. It's true that I don't like the bucket threads as proposed, and that I suggested delaying the vote, but if no one else had agreed with me, I would have dropped it, but other people did, including people who want the bucket threads. It was not tied to any one specific issue; I suggested it because I honestly felt that waiting was for the best of the board as a community, for a variety of reasons.

I don't doubt at all that that is why you suggested it. And, yes, I realize that people that do want bucket threads supported the delay. But I think that they supported it because the anti-new thread people were upset, and they didn't want to see them upset. Which is fine. All I'm trying to say is that I don't see multiple smaller threads taking away any of that initial upset.