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Bureaucracy 4: Like Job. No, really, just like Job

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: Jon B, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych, msbelle, shrift, Dana, Laura

Stompy Emerita: ita, DXMachina


Jessica - Jun 29, 2008 2:00:56 pm PDT #3059 of 6786
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

You can take a public group private, but you can't make it public again after that.

Huh - how bizarre!


DCJensen - Jun 29, 2008 2:50:02 pm PDT #3060 of 6786
All is well that ends in pizza.

Xposty from Press:

Because i have had questions: Further information about the Buffista group on Flickr:

from [link]

Our group type:

  • Invite-only public groups are useful for small groups who wish to focus on a particular theme, but want to maintain control over membership.
  • Anyone can view the group page, but the only way to join the group is by invitation.
  • Admins can choose to show or hide discussions and/or group pools from non-members. [Enabled!]

42 members, so far!


Frankenbuddha - Jun 29, 2008 2:53:56 pm PDT #3061 of 6786
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

OK, do I have to have a Yahoo and/or Flicker account to be invited/join? Because I keep getting a login thingy when I click the link. I'll join, but I was hoping I wouldn't have to (for possibly completely irrational reasons).


DCJensen - Jun 29, 2008 2:58:20 pm PDT #3062 of 6786
All is well that ends in pizza.

I'll see what I can find, Frankenbuddha, but I'm thinking membership is needed.

Meanwhile, I've made Andi an admin, as this is moving fast.

I have not heard from any Buffista stompy feet or admins to see if they want to be in both places. You don't have to be, I just know you guys to be responsible... :)

If anyone else wants to help by being a moderator or admin, let me know.


Jessica - Jun 29, 2008 3:05:21 pm PDT #3063 of 6786
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

do I have to have a Yahoo and/or Flicker account to be invited/join?

Yes, you need to be a Flickr member to join a Flickr group.


javachik - Jul 07, 2008 3:15:24 pm PDT #3064 of 6786
Our wings are not tired.

I'd really, really appreciate it if it were made a private group. That way, we could each keep photos "locked" in our own Flickr accounts, but then "send" them to this private Flickr group, where automatically anyone in the group could see them. That would be a huge deal easier than making every Buffista a "friend" on my Flickr contacts page. Flickr only offers security settings for "friends" and "family" and as much as I love the buffistas, it's not ideal having every Buffista privy to every one of my friends-locked photos.

The best thing about the group being private is that you only have to join once, and then after every F2F, we attendees could "send" our photos to the group and they'd automatically be made available to everyone in the group. MUCH easier than adding every person individually to all of our individual accounts.


Jon B. - Jul 07, 2008 3:46:47 pm PDT #3065 of 6786
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

How does the current situation (where discussions and group pools are hidden from non-members, and membership is invite-only) not meet your needs?


§ ita § - Jul 07, 2008 4:22:33 pm PDT #3066 of 6786
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If you post a locked picture to a group pool, what happens? Doesn't it become visible to anyone who can see the group pool, which'd mean a member?


amych - Jul 07, 2008 4:25:58 pm PDT #3067 of 6786
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Photos in a group pool are visible to anyone with access to the pool, but it doesn't mean that the rest of your photos are -- so javachik could show a lot of her F2F shots to all Buffistas without having to friend everyone individually, while still limiting the extra-special ones to the maker-outers individual people she wants by way of guest passes.

Does that sound like your desired use, Java?

eta: group POOL, not POOP. If that's going on at F2Fs, I don't ever want to go again.


javachik - Jul 07, 2008 6:02:46 pm PDT #3068 of 6786
Our wings are not tired.

Yes, thanks, amych.

Sorry for brevity; on Treo.

Okay, no longer on Treo, so edited to add:

How does the current situation (where discussions and group pools are hidden from non-members, and membership is invite-only) not meet your needs?

I've got some pretty conservative friends. If they click on one of my photos in my Flickr photostream, and it happens to also be a photo that is included in the "group" photos, to the right of the photo (on my Flickr page), it will point out that the photo is also contained in the "Buffistas" photo pool. Now if that conservative friend also clicks on that "Buffistas" photo pool, then s/he will be able to see all of the "private" photos that I've sent to the "Buffistas" group. If I understand Flickr correctly, if that group is private, then the link and info won't be found on my Flickr photo page; therefore no secret entry into seeing photos that I'd only want Buffistas to see. Or, at the very least, if the group is private and they click on it, it shouldn't give them entry.

I would just open a second account for only my Buffista photos, but I think just the ones from the F2F would be too much upload for a free account. And I really don't want to pay for two Flickr pro accounts. Sorry to make this seem so complicated, but my boss, my CEO and my employees, not to mention a very conservative group of family and friends, all check my Flickr site pretty regularly. I need to keep my decadent Buffista lifestyle separate.

Edited again to add info from the page Daniel linked to:

    • Private groups cannot be made public later.

    • Private groups are useful for families or groups of friends.

    • Only group members and those who have been invited will be able to view the group page.

    • Private groups are completely hidden from group searches, and don't display on people's profiles amongst groups they belong to.

The last point is key to me. Maybe not so important for others.