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Bureaucracy 4: Like Job. No, really, just like Job

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: Jon B, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych, msbelle, shrift, Dana, Laura

Stompy Emerita: ita, DXMachina


Kate P. - May 11, 2008 9:52:13 am PDT #2841 of 6786
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

I may be a bit late with this, but I wanted to address this comment:

I think the difference is that there is no new way to frame the argument. People who feel strongly one way or the other shall never be swayed.

I disagree. It seems to me that the pro/antipro argument is slightly different for each new thread under discussion. Sure, it's the same issues at bottom, but they affect each new proposed thread in different ways, depending on the proposed topic, how closely it relates to the "mission" of the board, whether or not it already gets some discussion in other threads, how much discussion, etc.

What I mean by that is, let's say I propose a thread to discuss what we're all eating for lunch today. The antipro argument would be that people already discuss that topic in Natter quite often, and thus taking that discussion out of Natter and giving it its own thread would contribute quite significantly to community fragmentation. The pros could argue that sometimes people just want to talk about what they're eating for lunch, without having to wade through discussions about cats and kids and whatever else.

If I proposed a thread to discuss, say, product recalls, the antipro people could again argue that the topic already gets discussed in Natter, and sometimes mentioned in Press as well, and thus another thread would simply contribute to more community fragmentation. But the pro side might argue that discussion of product recalls is less central to the overall tone and content of Natter, and people who skim or don't read Natter might benefit from having information on product recalls in a separate, smaller thread.

Same argument at base, but the specifics of each case are different enough that there's still plenty to discuss on each side.


Jessica - May 11, 2008 10:02:04 am PDT #2842 of 6786
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Have we had any totally inappropriate thread proposals?

I thought Bitches was the Totally Inappropriate thread.


meara - May 11, 2008 12:47:16 pm PDT #2843 of 6786

I have a random question: Do we still need Meijaville in the right hand threads?

I mean, I guess it's not really taking up lots of space or anything, but...


Jon B. - May 11, 2008 1:01:59 pm PDT #2844 of 6786
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Perhaps someone will volunteer to pick up the torch for Dollhouse?


Rob - May 11, 2008 4:22:35 pm PDT #2845 of 6786

Numerous times, and it's always an unequivocal yes.

Every time someone argues against a new thread based on server resources I claim that adding a thread, unless it draws a lot more active posters, will have no measurable effect on server load.

Am I right? I don't know. You'd really have to measure load on the server per thread to know for sure.


Jesse - May 11, 2008 4:24:03 pm PDT #2846 of 6786
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I think at one point we were much closer to the technical limit of server load or whatever than we are now -- but I don't know if that's actually true. People who know stuff?


billytea - May 11, 2008 4:26:23 pm PDT #2847 of 6786
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

People who know stuff?

Wait, I know this one. They're the luckiest people in the world, right?


Amy - May 11, 2008 6:01:41 pm PDT #2848 of 6786
Because books.

billytea made me choke on my tea. Heh.


Kevin - May 11, 2008 9:23:13 pm PDT #2849 of 6786
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Another thread is just another bit of the database - there's very little difference between having posts in Natter compared to, say, Bitches. Unless I'm wrong.


Laura - May 12, 2008 2:14:03 am PDT #2850 of 6786
Our wings are not tired.

Every time someone argues against a new thread based on server resources I claim that adding a thread, unless it draws a lot more active posters, will have no measurable effect on server load.

The server isn't the only resource that may be taxed. Is it more effort for our beloved stompies to maintain added threads? (Yes, I know I am usually pro new shiny threads)