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Bureaucracy 4: Like Job. No, really, just like Job

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

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sumi - Jul 30, 2007 7:54:30 am PDT #276 of 6786
Art Crawl!!!

I don't know why it makes a difference except that unlike WX or TWOP making a thread here is more difficult. I think because we want more structure and less fluidity in what is discussed. It's not just random topics that anyone can create. So bucket thread(s) make more sense because we can make fewer of them and vote on them less than if we were going to individual show threads. And from then we can (as we have with Heroes or SPN) vote to create separate show threads when it makes sense to do so.


§ ita § - Jul 30, 2007 7:57:39 am PDT #277 of 6786
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't see what that has to do with being or not being a TV forum, though. They are just ways of discussing TV.

Who knows what will come out of this discussion--a TV folder with 1 thread per show, any show anyone wants, or 1 bucket thread for them all, or no change at all. That's what the discussion is about.

Oh--as for board resources, the more threads there are, the slower "read new" will be, especially if you're subscribed to a lot of them. But, again, I don't know if you'd notice that over your bandwidth.


sumi - Jul 30, 2007 8:03:02 am PDT #278 of 6786
Art Crawl!!!

I don't know how we're not a tv forum. Our genesis was our love for a tv show and it's creators. So we're pretty specific about what tv we started from but we don't really discuss that anymore.

I can't believe that we're just natter and bitches.


NoiseDesign - Jul 30, 2007 8:12:35 am PDT #279 of 6786
Our wings are not tired

Just to be clear. I'm not completely anti bucket thread. I just can't handle large buckets. My value for large seems to be greater than four.


sumi - Jul 30, 2007 8:15:12 am PDT #280 of 6786
Art Crawl!!!

4 shows? or 4 buckets?


NoiseDesign - Jul 30, 2007 8:16:55 am PDT #281 of 6786
Our wings are not tired

Four shows in a bucket.


DavidS - Jul 30, 2007 8:18:39 am PDT #282 of 6786
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

If we have a bucket thread are we any less a general TV forum? Why is that making the difference?

If the argument is that being too splintered is not good for the community, then the bucket threads bring larger groups together and allow for some cross pollination. The notion may be that bucket threads foster community more than individual threads?

Box Set works kind of like that. But I think an Office thread could do the same thing.

The Veronica Mars thread was pretty active and engaged for the first two seasons.


NoiseDesign - Jul 30, 2007 8:21:27 am PDT #283 of 6786
Our wings are not tired

If the argument is that being too splintered is not good for the community, then the bucket threads bring larger groups together and allow for some cross pollination. The notion may be that bucket threads foster community more than individual threads?

While I understand that this may be the intention of the bucket threads, it also does the reverse for those of us who are not able to keep up with the larger bucket threads. Instead of fostering community, we are left out of that aspect of the community. This isn't meant to be argumentative, I'm just trying to point out the other side of this coin.


§ ita § - Jul 30, 2007 8:55:02 am PDT #284 of 6786
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I thought that the reasons against single show threads were:
1. We're not a general tv forum and

I don't know how we're not a tv forum.

I don't understand your position, sumi. You said that "we're not a general TV forum" is a reason to not have single show threads, but then you say we are a TV forum.

If the argument is that being too splintered is not good for the community, then the bucket threads bring larger groups together and allow for some cross pollination.

Different point, and I don't want the question I'm asking to be confused with that.


Scrappy - Jul 30, 2007 8:58:19 am PDT #285 of 6786
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

We may want to consider buckets for specific types of shows only--ones they work as a locus for discussion. I think bucket threads work quite well for non plot-arc-y shows--I am thinking of Reality or Non-fiction in particular. In the case of reality competition shows, like Top Chef, people tend to watch them as they happen as it is hard not to be spoiled if you wait, and half of the fun is in sussing out what happens next. Non-fiction shows can't really be be spoiled, per se. I mean, CAN one be spoiled for Dirty Jobs or Alton Brown? I think there was more, and smarter, discussion of both those types of shows in their respective buckets.

Fiction shows which are all about arc are an entirely different thing to my mind.