Gimme some milk.

Jayne ,'Jaynestown'


Bureaucracy 4: Like Job. No, really, just like Job

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: Jon B, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych, msbelle, shrift, Dana, Laura

Stompy Emerita: ita, DXMachina


Sophia Brooks - Apr 21, 2008 4:11:35 am PDT #2556 of 6786
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

MM- you post in Lighbulbs, and there will be a press anouncement when it is open for vote.

I was thinking the same thing about the length of the period, but part of that length is so that everyone who visits the board has time to see it and have their say before it goes to vote. And for people who don't access the board on the weekend, and/or are around the world, 4 days seems a minimum. I was thinking perhaps we should restrict the number of posts a poster can make, but that seems very restrictive and fascist state. maybe we should think about self restricting. Or restricting to the vote at hand only.

The wat the discussion works the best, IMO, is if it is somewhat self moderated by either the proposer or a neutral party. That is, every so many posts, if someone sums up the discussion so far, in neutral language, and makes a suggestion about rewording the proposal. The problem with this is that it is quite painful for that person (I did it for the first few votes, and it did change my relationship with the board). I think the reason it works, though is that it helps to minimize ineffective discussion that just serves to make other buffistas angry. And I get that it is hard to be a neutral summer-upper when you yourself are angry (I personally had a really hard time understanding the position of people who were against voting, but I tried really hard to sum things up neutrally).

So, I have no suggestions of merit, I guess, just some thoughts


Miracleman - Apr 21, 2008 4:17:49 am PDT #2557 of 6786
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

Okay, Jon and Sophia have good points that shoots my idea out of the water.

*shrug* It was just a random thought. Much like this one:

I have never seen a monkey dressed up as a clown. I mean, all the way with the face paint and the red nose and everything. And the big shoes. I wonder why that is.

eta: Oh, and I posted the Final Wording. I hope it's vaguely coherent, as I have not had much coffee yet this fine morn.


Kevin - Apr 21, 2008 4:20:13 am PDT #2558 of 6786
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

It's spot on, Miracleman.


Miracleman - Apr 21, 2008 4:57:38 am PDT #2559 of 6786
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

Do I have to do anything else? Set up a thingie? E-mail someone? Offer a car in every pot and a chicken in every garage if you vote for me? Pass out candy and cigarettes? Shake babies, kiss hands?


Jon B. - Apr 21, 2008 6:38:52 am PDT #2560 of 6786
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Stick a fork in ya, MM. You're done. I'm just waiting for a note from ita that votes@ is pointing to Sophia.


Sophia Brooks - Apr 21, 2008 6:40:44 am PDT #2561 of 6786
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Jon- I want to creat a tag in gmail for the votes. Can you remind me the address that the email will come from? Or the subject line?


Jon B. - Apr 21, 2008 6:57:10 am PDT #2562 of 6786
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Jon- I want to creat a tag in gmail for the votes.

Messages go to votes@b.org. They come from whoever is voting. Typically, I've put the vote (Y or N) in the subject line for easy parsing, but it can be whatever you want. How about "Buffista Vote: Y" or "Buffista Vote: N"?


Sophia Brooks - Apr 21, 2008 6:59:28 am PDT #2563 of 6786
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

How about "Buffista Vote: Y" or "Buffista Vote: N"?

Thanks! Sounds good!


Sophia Brooks - Apr 21, 2008 7:04:38 am PDT #2564 of 6786
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Also, so as not to clog up the vote thread with things that have nothing to do with the vote:

I only check the music thread rarely, because I am not that in to music, but sometimes I like to get suggestions, but because it was brought up in the voting thread, I was able to join in on the bandom conversation, which was nice. I might have not noticed it if it wasn't announced, or read it really late. Which seems like maybe the music thread was a bad idea, because lots of people may have missed the bandom conversation. On the other hand, I am not sure that the bandom conversation could or would have taken place in natter/bitches. I mean, it has been brought up a lot, but we never got to have the depth of conversation that seemed possible in music.

I only wish it was practical to have a highlights thing where you could know what was being discussed and go there, but I realize that is complete not possible.


Steph L. - Apr 21, 2008 7:06:12 am PDT #2565 of 6786
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I only wish it was practical to have a highlights thing where you could know what was being discussed and go there, but I realize that is complete not possible.

Like a stock market ticker?

"Now being discussed in Natter: what people had for lunch; tommyrot's cat farted; Hallmark Channel is manipulative."