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Bureaucracy 4: Like Job. No, really, just like Job

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: Jon B, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych, msbelle, shrift, Dana, Laura

Stompy Emerita: ita, DXMachina


Kat - Aug 19, 2007 7:09:24 pm PDT #1429 of 6786
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Thank you, Jon. Quirky is just a nebulous adjective that does not work to reduce a Network Drama thread into a smaller drama thread.

To try to say now that this is against the rules seems unfair to me.

To try to pass a network drama thread with another name is against the rules and is unfair.


Lee - Aug 19, 2007 7:11:22 pm PDT #1430 of 6786
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

So if the "quirky" thread was redefined to include specific shows that wouldn't be in the Comedy or the Procedural bucket (maybe any other show from the poll that had 10 or more votes), would that make people feel better?

If there was something that distinguished it from the overall drama thread that just got voted down, sure. I'm just not seeing anything that does.


msbelle - Aug 19, 2007 7:13:16 pm PDT #1431 of 6786
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

t can't sleep

This is not the place to work out a proposal. If you want to vote on it or think it is worth working out, then second it and it can move to Lightbulbs for sorting out and debate and heated discussions.

As it stands SA made a proposal here: SA "Bureaucracy 4: Like Job. No, really, just like Job" Aug 19, 2007 7:06:23 pm PDT


Jon B. - Aug 19, 2007 7:13:48 pm PDT #1432 of 6786
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

So if the "quirky" thread was redefined to include specific shows that wouldn't be in the Comedy or the Procedural bucket (maybe any other show from the poll that had 10 or more votes), would that make people feel better? And we could further vote to add new shows to it as the need arose?

Comedy isn't drama, so excluding Comedy from this newly proposed thread is irrelevant.

Excluding "Procedurals" is trickier. It's certainly less vague than "quirky", but I'm not sure if the line is white enough.


Kat - Aug 19, 2007 7:14:30 pm PDT #1433 of 6786
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

maybe any other show from the poll that had 10 or more votes

That still is a bit like "all other dramas" which is what was voted down. Someone upthread mentioned "Shows About Talking with Dead People" which wouldn't bug me at all as it is clearly not about a general drama thread. It has a clear purpose and a limited number of shows. But quirky drama, dramas we watch that aren't covered by a clear category, etc. are a rehash of what was voted down.


Jon B. - Aug 19, 2007 7:15:16 pm PDT #1434 of 6786
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

This is not the place to work out a proposal.

It can't be proposed if it violates our rules. That's what I'm concerned about.


Denise - Aug 19, 2007 7:15:39 pm PDT #1435 of 6786

If there was something that distinguished it from the overall drama thread that just got voted down, sure.

Well, not to speak for SA, but it seems to me that what would distinguish it would be the absence of the medical and legal shows. I could be wrong, but I think that the general drama bucket didn't pass because some felt it too large to be managable as far as spoilers would go. Taking out the medical and legal shows probably cuts it in half if we were to go with the show selecting method I mentioned above.


Kat - Aug 19, 2007 7:15:55 pm PDT #1436 of 6786
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

msbelle, I don't disagree that we don't need to hammer out the proposal here. But I think that we need to be clear that any general drama thread is off limits for 6 months. A specific category of drama that is clear is different enough from a general drama thread.

No one has proposed one yet.

eta I am deeply amused that Jon and I, who have had wildly differing opinions on procedure, are both interested enough in rules and procedures that we are both concerned that this is against policy. this is why, I'd wager, we were in the Gang of 14.


msbelle - Aug 19, 2007 7:16:37 pm PDT #1437 of 6786
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

point to Jon b. I withdraw my pushing of people to take action.

as painful as it is.


Jon B. - Aug 19, 2007 7:17:30 pm PDT #1438 of 6786
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Well, not to speak for SA, but it seems to me that what would distinguish it would be the absence of the medical and legal shows.

So all medical and legal shows are procedurals?

I'm very confused and need to go to bed.