Bureaucracy 4: Like Job. No, really, just like Job
A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.
Current Stompy Feet: Jon B, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych, msbelle, shrift, Dana, Laura
Stompy Emerita: ita, DXMachina
And it seems that we are back to the same impasse of very different stances on what works and what isn't working.
Where else would we put them? I'm not comfortable opening a new dedicated thread to a show that hasn't yet shown that it can generate significant discussion.
Here's the thing, when they land in boxed set then it's the folks in boxed set that get to discuss it. I'd love to be part of that crowd, but it is just a non-workable thread for me. If the show does take off in boxed set, then I fear that we have the same issue as in the past, which is resistance to it ever leaving that thread as it is now part of the very fabric of that thread. This leads to yet another show that I am left out of on b.org. I'm not talking about a dedicated thread for all the new shows. Toss some established shows in with the new ones.
Okay, how about Numbers, Pushing Daisies, and 24 as a small bucket. Totally random selection there from me.
I can't see having two places to discuss the same show -- unless the other place is the spoiler thread. It doesn't make sense to me.
I thought that most people had left boxed set due to the SPN discussion. I mean, because they have SPN and felt unwanted in BS they left. Isn't that why there is almost no discussion of Doctor Who anymore? Or is everyone super spoiled?
(Doctor Who is very frustrating everywhere: most people who are likely to discuss it have already seen it and no longer care. Meanwhile the few of us who can't ahem can't find decent discussion that isn't spoiler heavy anywhere.)
And as far whether any given show will be discussed in Boxed Set goes, there's never been a formal process to say "this season we'll be discussing shows X Y and Z here" and I don't want one -- discussions happen, and they take off or don't (Sometimes there. Sometimes in Natter. Probably other places too.)
I've seen several times in our discussion of new shows that people have said that something would "obviously go in Boxed Set" because of its genre. That's what I was responding too, amych. I know it's not a formal thing, though.
Where else would we put them? I'm not comfortable opening a new dedicated thread to a show that hasn't yet shown that it can generate significant discussion.
Natter doesn't generally work for me for TV though I've tried--it tends to move too fast for me to follow, and the conversation gets lost (for me). If PD ends up also being discussed in Minearverse, then that's a fine alternative for me for that show. But in terms of generating discussion, I was just pointing out that some voices won't be there to add to the discussion without some kind of specific thread.
But like I said, I'm not trying to cause a new kerfuffle. I threw it out there as one possible compromise, but I'm not going to harp on it if a poll shows that ND and I are a small minority. I don't expect the board to reshape itself for my needs, truly. (And I don't mean that to sound snarky--I'm being sincere. Damn this lack of vocal inflection thing!)
Okay, how about Numbers, Pushing Daisies, and 24 as a small bucket. Totally random selection there from me.
That may work for you, but I don't know how it works on a general level. Throwing a random selection in there makes it the "NoiseDesign TV Thread." That's not even really a bucket; it's more like a milk pail. Filled with Coke. Sprinkled with cinnamon.
Smaller buckets of shows that have
some
sort of commonality would have a greater functionality, I think.
Pushing Daisies, Ghost Whisperer and Ghost Hunters? The Speaking With The Dead thread?
Mostly kidding...
It's not even the NoiseDesign TV thread to be honest. I don't watch 24 at all. In my mind that makes it work even better, if one or two of the shows in a bucket are shows that I don't watch at all, then I don't have to worry about spoilers for them. If they are all of a very tight genre that I do watch, or am very interested in, then the possibility for spoilage becomes great.
would you mind adding a question that would determine how many of the poll respondants who plan to watch sci-fi/fantasy shows plan to discuss them in Boxed Set?
I'd say yes to this, but I'd happily discuss them elsewhere too. A yes/no answer to this question doesn't cover that possibility.
I aired some similar concerns in my comment in the poll. Mainly, why shows that were appropriate for Boxed Set were included, and things like why Daily Show and Colbert were only given one night a week. Also, no mention of some returning shows I'd at least talk about to snark at (like 24).
Okay, I'll say this one more time.
If they were not on the schedule that Sumi linked to, they're not on there. If they more properly belong in Boxed Set or elsewhere, it was an oversight in translating a grid of hundreds of shows into a poll. If it is not on there and you wonder why, it already has it's own thread, or it is already discussed somewhere, or it is an oversight. The day of week groupings were solely to divide the list so it
wasn't
a hundred choices in one question.
I'd rather not start creating threads for the sole purpose of avoiding hurt feelings. If there's a quorum for a thread, we create the thread. We can't make this place be all things for all people.
How about this. How about we create a TV folder, and make it accessible to any poster who wants to create a thread. Anybody could make a thread for any single show--hey, there could even be threads to discuss popular commercials series. TV folder, as many threads as anybody wants to create, as long as it doesn't create server problems. That way, every person could have single-show threads to talk about the four shows he or she watches, with the five other people who only want to talk about each particular show, for twenty or thirty posts per week. Three hundred and fifty-odd threads, maybe? No oversight, no modding, no stompy presence. Would that make the wrangling stop?
Can we do that? Can we make one folder accessible to anybody who wants to create a thread, and leave the rest of b.org pretty much as it is, for threads where people want to talk about lunch and breastfeeding and bosses and hot tv personalities and families and music and my car's making funny noises and what we watched last night, keeping Boxed Set for those who want to talk about *any* show that supports meta, fic and/or vids (FNL, f'rex) and the crosspollination thereunto.
