I'm sorry. You were going to ask me to choose, right? Did you want to finish?

Zoe ,'War Stories'


Bureaucracy 4: Like Job. No, really, just like Job

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: Jon B, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych, msbelle, shrift, Dana, Laura

Stompy Emerita: ita, DXMachina


Jon B. - Aug 19, 2007 10:21:43 am PDT #1331 of 6786
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Alternatively, even if we leave Boxed Set as is but just don't automatically put every *new* sci-fi/fantasy show into it exclusively, that too would help.

Where else would we put them? I'm not comfortable opening a new dedicated thread to a show that hasn't yet shown that it can generate significant discussion.


Polter-Cow - Aug 19, 2007 10:22:08 am PDT #1332 of 6786
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I wouldn't rule out a separate thread for this show.

We have to make sure it doesn't get cancelled first.

Also, I think of Pushing Daisies as a Minearverse show because of the double-Wonderfalls connection (Bryan Fuller/Lee Pace).


amych - Aug 19, 2007 10:27:52 am PDT #1333 of 6786
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

I'm not comfortable opening a new dedicated thread to a show that hasn't yet shown that it can generate significant discussion.

This++. And as far whether any given show will be discussed in Boxed Set goes, there's never been a formal process to say "this season we'll be discussing shows X Y and Z here" and I don't want one -- discussions happen, and they take off or don't (Sometimes there. Sometimes in Natter. Probably other places too.)


sumi - Aug 19, 2007 10:32:05 am PDT #1334 of 6786
Art Crawl!!!

How do I make a poll?


Frankenbuddha - Aug 19, 2007 10:32:23 am PDT #1335 of 6786
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I aired some similar concerns in my comment in the poll. Mainly, why shows that were appropriate for Boxed Set were included, and things like why Daily Show and Colbert were only given one night a week. Also, no mention of some returning shows I'd at least talk about to snark at (like 24).


NoiseDesign - Aug 19, 2007 10:41:34 am PDT #1336 of 6786
Our wings are not tired

And it seems that we are back to the same impasse of very different stances on what works and what isn't working.

Where else would we put them? I'm not comfortable opening a new dedicated thread to a show that hasn't yet shown that it can generate significant discussion.

Here's the thing, when they land in boxed set then it's the folks in boxed set that get to discuss it. I'd love to be part of that crowd, but it is just a non-workable thread for me. If the show does take off in boxed set, then I fear that we have the same issue as in the past, which is resistance to it ever leaving that thread as it is now part of the very fabric of that thread. This leads to yet another show that I am left out of on b.org. I'm not talking about a dedicated thread for all the new shows. Toss some established shows in with the new ones.

Okay, how about Numbers, Pushing Daisies, and 24 as a small bucket. Totally random selection there from me.


sumi - Aug 19, 2007 10:41:37 am PDT #1337 of 6786
Art Crawl!!!

I can't see having two places to discuss the same show -- unless the other place is the spoiler thread. It doesn't make sense to me.

I thought that most people had left boxed set due to the SPN discussion. I mean, because they have SPN and felt unwanted in BS they left. Isn't that why there is almost no discussion of Doctor Who anymore? Or is everyone super spoiled?

(Doctor Who is very frustrating everywhere: most people who are likely to discuss it have already seen it and no longer care. Meanwhile the few of us who can't ahem can't find decent discussion that isn't spoiler heavy anywhere.)


Pix - Aug 19, 2007 10:44:09 am PDT #1338 of 6786
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

And as far whether any given show will be discussed in Boxed Set goes, there's never been a formal process to say "this season we'll be discussing shows X Y and Z here" and I don't want one -- discussions happen, and they take off or don't (Sometimes there. Sometimes in Natter. Probably other places too.)

I've seen several times in our discussion of new shows that people have said that something would "obviously go in Boxed Set" because of its genre. That's what I was responding too, amych. I know it's not a formal thing, though.

Where else would we put them? I'm not comfortable opening a new dedicated thread to a show that hasn't yet shown that it can generate significant discussion.
Natter doesn't generally work for me for TV though I've tried--it tends to move too fast for me to follow, and the conversation gets lost (for me). If PD ends up also being discussed in Minearverse, then that's a fine alternative for me for that show. But in terms of generating discussion, I was just pointing out that some voices won't be there to add to the discussion without some kind of specific thread.

But like I said, I'm not trying to cause a new kerfuffle. I threw it out there as one possible compromise, but I'm not going to harp on it if a poll shows that ND and I are a small minority. I don't expect the board to reshape itself for my needs, truly. (And I don't mean that to sound snarky--I'm being sincere. Damn this lack of vocal inflection thing!)


Polter-Cow - Aug 19, 2007 10:49:37 am PDT #1339 of 6786
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Okay, how about Numbers, Pushing Daisies, and 24 as a small bucket. Totally random selection there from me.

That may work for you, but I don't know how it works on a general level. Throwing a random selection in there makes it the "NoiseDesign TV Thread." That's not even really a bucket; it's more like a milk pail. Filled with Coke. Sprinkled with cinnamon.

Smaller buckets of shows that have some sort of commonality would have a greater functionality, I think.


Nicole - Aug 19, 2007 10:54:20 am PDT #1340 of 6786
I'm getting the pig!

Pushing Daisies, Ghost Whisperer and Ghost Hunters? The Speaking With The Dead thread?

Mostly kidding...