I always figured Vietnam, too. Moscow is west of the Urals, and thus is in the Europe part of Russia.

That's an astute and hilarious assessment of Mr. Freeze. He's a lot like certain people I know in real life. Just can't catch the break that's hitting them in the face.

Moscow is west of the Urals, and thus is in the Europe part of Russia.

It would be so much simpler if everyone would just admit Europe should never have been a continent in the first place.

Of course, you couldn't really say "Never start a land war in Eurasia."

Moscow is west of the Urals, and thus is in the Europe part of Russia.

Is that where the dividing line is? Huh. In my head (and this was probably only ever in my head), I always put the dividing line as a vague line drawn between the Barents sea and the Black sea, which puts Moscow in Asia, but makes St. Petersburg part of the hazy gray area. In my head.

Perhaps *I* do not always have the grasp on geography I imagine myself to have. In my defense, it's better than most USians' grasp.

It would be so much simpler if everyone would just admit Europe should never have been a continent in the first place.

Of course, you couldn't really say "Never start a land war in Eurasia."

Or what megan said.

Yeah, pulling out my giant atlas, and looking at the section on Europe, it draws the line where Plei does - at the Urals. For me, I knew Ukrane, Belarus and the Baltics were all in Europe, but East of that was where I though Asia started.

Which includes all of Russia west of the Urals.

I think, looking at a map, part of my confusion comes from Asia Minor - Turkey and the 'Stans are all in Asia, and so I always imagine the entire Caucasus are in Asia (which my atlas puts firmly in Europe - the Caucasus are the dividing line between Southern European Russia and Asia Minor.

I'm much less confused now, but I'm still feeling the effects of retroactive confusion.

If it helps Sean, not everyone agrees on how many continents there are. The French, for example, teach that there are five (hence, the five Olympic rings). The funny thing is about that (to me) is that Europe is a separate continent, but the Americas are one.

t /still bitter about losing that question when playing Trivial Pursuit with my relatives.

The French, for example, teach that there are five (hence, the five Olympic rings). The funny thing is about that (to me) is that Europe is a separate continent, but the Americas are one.

Those kooky French.

Right now, I'm blaming Asia Minor.

See also: arguments for keeping Turkey out of the European Union.

For me, I knew Ukrane, Belarus and the Baltics were all in Russia, but East of that was where I though Asia started.

I think you mean Europe. Otherwise that's the kind of talk that could start a land war in Asia Europe Eurasia wherever.