Jayne, your mouth is talking. You might wanna look to that.

Mal ,'Serenity'


Buffista Movies 6: lies and videotape  

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beekaytee - Dec 30, 2008 11:45:16 am PST #9246 of 10000
Compassionately intolerant

Steph's statement and Le nubian's:

Beauty and the Beast is argued to be one of the first feminist Western fairy tales (it is my favorite fairy tale) and Disney fucked all that up - and even threw in some Frankenstein references just for the fuck of it.

Are both concise representations of my beef. The one that cuases me to practically stroke out. It is so anti what I want young girls to hear.

The thing that I started whinging about in the theatre was 'the Disney three'. The 'sexy' big-breasted, air-headed blondes that fawn over the hero and wiggle their asses is pretty much every Disney film. What is up with that? [Disney development execs twirl their mustashes and said, "Heh. Whatt'll keep the dads buying tickets? Bubble-headed boobs!] Perfect.


Frankenbuddha - Dec 30, 2008 11:52:51 am PST #9247 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

My favorite late-period, non-Pixar Disney is Emperor's New Groove. No love interests at all (unless John Goodman and David Spade as a Llama count). I guess you could make an argument about Eartha Kitt (RIP - sniff!) being the villain as a stereotype of some kind, but I really think that casting was all about THAT VOICE.

Plus, her and Patrick Warburton were hilarious playing off each other.


Polter-Cow - Dec 30, 2008 12:07:27 pm PST #9248 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I love Emperor's New Groove so very much. It's ridiculously hilarious and has an awesome zoom-out joke. Who has zoom-out jokes anymore?

I'm pretending Jessica is talking about 2001.

I thought she was! But I guess she wasn't. That also makes sense, I see.


Barb - Dec 30, 2008 12:26:04 pm PST #9249 of 10000
“Not dead yet!”

Also, don't forget Lilo & Stitch!

I didn't have problems with the Disney reinterpretations of fairy tales/fables because I pretty much hated the originals anyway. (I know, I know, heresy!)

So for the most part I went for the music and the pretty animation.


Polter-Cow - Dec 30, 2008 12:33:53 pm PST #9250 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Also, don't forget Lilo & Stitch!

"It's okay, my dog found the chainsaw."


Connie Neil - Dec 30, 2008 12:39:45 pm PST #9251 of 10000
brillig

Hey, in Mulan the girl kicks major ass all by herself! And the second appearance of "Make a Man Out of You" has them all cross-dressing!


Jessica - Dec 30, 2008 2:58:50 pm PST #9252 of 10000
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

I'm pretending Jessica is talking about 2001.

Bwah! Maybe I was...


beekaytee - Dec 30, 2008 3:17:59 pm PST #9253 of 10000
Compassionately intolerant

speaking of source material. Have you read the original Bambi?

It's right up there with Johnny Got His Gun as most effective anti-war screed ever. I've got a 1945 edition translated from the French. (Felix Salton, fyi)

I sincerely do not know how Disney when from Salton's words to Bambi splay-legged across a pond. Nor, how they glossed over what happened to the real Thumber. I'm not even kidding when I say it is brutal.


Sophia Brooks - Dec 30, 2008 3:21:05 pm PST #9254 of 10000
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Oh no! Bambi is sad enough as it is!


beekaytee - Dec 30, 2008 3:24:19 pm PST #9255 of 10000
Compassionately intolerant

Seriously. But the original is painful. One of those things you are glad you read because it really makes you think, but not an annual favorite, if you know what I mean.

Hm. It's been a while. Must re-read.