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Buffista Movies 6: lies and videotape  

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Hayden - Dec 30, 2008 9:06:12 am PST #9241 of 10000
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

I quite liked WALL-E, especially the first third. But the end, with the return to the desolate Earth, should have turned into the Jamestown colony in The New World, with the unprepared dying off at startling rates.

And I never assumed that HAL was anything but rational. In fact, I thought that was the point: rationality can often lead to intellectual dead-ends, but humanity was touched by the creativity of the obelisk.


Jessica - Dec 30, 2008 9:09:54 am PST #9242 of 10000
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

I would love to have seen the original script, with zero dialogue and much less of the human story (and a much darker overall tone). But it would have needed a different studio behind it.


Glamcookie - Dec 30, 2008 10:55:09 am PST #9243 of 10000
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

Aw, I love WALL-E. Too doped up to articulate, but I just love it.


Strega - Dec 30, 2008 11:07:27 am PST #9244 of 10000

I'm pretending Jessica is talking about 2001.


Typo Boy - Dec 30, 2008 11:20:19 am PST #9245 of 10000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Also the what got be about Wall-E was fat=victim or villain. Even the Wall-Mart equivalent was called Buy & Large. Just in case we did not get the message.


beekaytee - Dec 30, 2008 11:45:16 am PST #9246 of 10000
Compassionately intolerant

Steph's statement and Le nubian's:

Beauty and the Beast is argued to be one of the first feminist Western fairy tales (it is my favorite fairy tale) and Disney fucked all that up - and even threw in some Frankenstein references just for the fuck of it.

Are both concise representations of my beef. The one that cuases me to practically stroke out. It is so anti what I want young girls to hear.

The thing that I started whinging about in the theatre was 'the Disney three'. The 'sexy' big-breasted, air-headed blondes that fawn over the hero and wiggle their asses is pretty much every Disney film. What is up with that? [Disney development execs twirl their mustashes and said, "Heh. Whatt'll keep the dads buying tickets? Bubble-headed boobs!] Perfect.


Frankenbuddha - Dec 30, 2008 11:52:51 am PST #9247 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

My favorite late-period, non-Pixar Disney is Emperor's New Groove. No love interests at all (unless John Goodman and David Spade as a Llama count). I guess you could make an argument about Eartha Kitt (RIP - sniff!) being the villain as a stereotype of some kind, but I really think that casting was all about THAT VOICE.

Plus, her and Patrick Warburton were hilarious playing off each other.


Polter-Cow - Dec 30, 2008 12:07:27 pm PST #9248 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I love Emperor's New Groove so very much. It's ridiculously hilarious and has an awesome zoom-out joke. Who has zoom-out jokes anymore?

I'm pretending Jessica is talking about 2001.

I thought she was! But I guess she wasn't. That also makes sense, I see.


Barb - Dec 30, 2008 12:26:04 pm PST #9249 of 10000
“Not dead yet!”

Also, don't forget Lilo & Stitch!

I didn't have problems with the Disney reinterpretations of fairy tales/fables because I pretty much hated the originals anyway. (I know, I know, heresy!)

So for the most part I went for the music and the pretty animation.


Polter-Cow - Dec 30, 2008 12:33:53 pm PST #9250 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Also, don't forget Lilo & Stitch!

"It's okay, my dog found the chainsaw."