I walk. I talk. I shop, I sneeze. I'm gonna be a fireman when the floods roll back. There's trees in the desert since you moved out. And I don't sleep on a bed of bones.

Buffy ,'Chosen'


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§ ita § - Nov 08, 2008 6:15:52 pm PST #8533 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I didn't even notice him.

I also watched Mulholland Drive today. Bleh.


Laga - Nov 08, 2008 6:19:15 pm PST #8534 of 10000
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I love Henry Rollins in the Jackass movie too.


DavidS - Nov 08, 2008 6:39:10 pm PST #8535 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I thought it was going to be a comedy

::eyebrows rocket to the top of forehead::

The Fassbinder miniseries?


Laga - Nov 08, 2008 6:43:16 pm PST #8536 of 10000
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

yes... there are big gaps in my movie knowledge. I knew Fassbinder was a fmaous director but that was it. I barely recall watching some series DVD with the commentary on and someone saying they modeled something after Berlin Alexanderplatz and thinking, "hmm, I've heard of that but know nothing about it. I should add it to my queue."

So... do they continue to treat the murdering rapist like he has some redeeming value?


DavidS - Nov 08, 2008 6:50:08 pm PST #8537 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

So... do they continue to treat the murdering rapist like he has some redeeming value?

Well, that's not really the point. Berlin Alexnderplatz is a high modernist novel, generally considered to be the Ulysses of German literature. Fassbinder was one of the three great directors of the 70s German cinema, along with Herzog and Wim Wenders. Fassbinder was very formalist, indebted to Douglas Sirk's melodramas, but in a very ironic way.

So. It's not a straightforward tale. It's a portrait of an entire city in high modernist style, compounded by a rather arch, ironic director.


Laga - Nov 08, 2008 6:57:17 pm PST #8538 of 10000
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

It's a portrait of an entire city

so are we done with Franz after part 1 or will the camera continue to follow him around? The way he treats women is especially unpleasant for me at this point in my life.


DavidS - Nov 08, 2008 7:03:25 pm PST #8539 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

so are we done with Franz after part 1 or will the camera continue to follow him around? The way he treats women is especially unpleasant for me at this point in my life.

I think he's the sick soul of Berlin, so he'll be around.


Laga - Nov 08, 2008 7:13:59 pm PST #8540 of 10000
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

OK, thanks for the info. I'll shove that back to the bottom of the queue for future watching when it doesn't hit so close to home. I can't see that kind of behavior as anything but literal at the moment.


§ ita § - Nov 08, 2008 8:07:10 pm PST #8541 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Can someone who liked Mulholland Drive sell it to me?


Laga - Nov 08, 2008 8:09:42 pm PST #8542 of 10000
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I didn't like it one bit.