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Buffista Movies 6: lies and videotape  

A place to talk about movies--old and new, good and bad, high art and high cheese. It's the place to place your kittens on the award winners, gossip about upcoming fims and discuss DVD releases and extras. Spoiler policy: White font all plot-related discussion until a movie's been in wide release two weeks, and keep the major HSQ in white font until two weeks after the video/DVD release.


le nubian - Jul 18, 2008 3:37:33 pm PDT #7196 of 10000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I agree with your statement about Eckhardt. I feel like we are missing a few scenes there.


Strega - Jul 18, 2008 3:44:04 pm PDT #7197 of 10000

I almost forgot! I was strangely delighted that Batman kept beating up dogs.

I'm not sure why. Maybe because I read Chris's Invincible Super-Blog.

ETA: Hee. I swear I wrote that before seeing his review, which says Seriously, at one point Batman punches a dog off a building while also punching two other dogs. It is the greatest cinematic achievement of our time.


Frankenbuddha - Jul 18, 2008 4:37:02 pm PDT #7198 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Tiny Lister! OK, I was about to ask which role he played, but Sean confirmed it was the one I thought and he was AWESOME! More than anything else, him throwing the trigger out the window (after saying he'd do what the cops should have done ten minutes ago) floored me with surprise in the most positive sense.

I was so worried that the asshat who said he'd pull the trigger on the other boat was going to, since Nolan had been playing decidedly not fair all movie.


Frankenbuddha - Jul 18, 2008 4:43:12 pm PDT #7199 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Oh yeah, and Armond White is my go-to guy for most off-the-rails end-of-movie-culture-as-we-know-it guy. Who also worships the ground that Stephen Spielberg walks on, which makes it even weirder.


Amy - Jul 18, 2008 5:48:29 pm PDT #7200 of 10000
Because books.

They're showing TDK at two different drive-ins here, and I would love to see it that way. It's been about a million years since I went to a drive-in. I thought they were all second-run now!


Frankenbuddha - Jul 18, 2008 5:55:07 pm PDT #7201 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Every single Imax show for the weekend is already sold out out around here. That's just incredible. This thing is going to make SO much money.

I'm VERY curious what Nolan decides to do next.


Ailleann - Jul 18, 2008 5:59:55 pm PDT #7202 of 10000
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

There's a first-run drive-in near where my office is, but it's a totally sketchy neighborhood and I wouldn't go there by myself.

When I looked at tickets this afternoon, all the shows until after 11pm were sold. I didn't check again, as I'm totally jealous because I won't be able to go see it until Sunday.


P.M. Marc - Jul 18, 2008 6:36:31 pm PDT #7203 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Seattle IMAX sold out. Hoping to catch it Wednesday. Am trying to work out how to see sooner.


Steph L. - Jul 18, 2008 7:41:01 pm PDT #7204 of 10000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Just saw it, so of course I turn to the internets.

I was SURE that with the ferry mindfuck detonator thing, what would end up happening was that each ferry had their OWN detonator. The Joker would totally do that shit.

Heath Ledger was good, absolutely. And disturbing. I may never be able to watch Brokeback Mountain again. But I certainly don't think his performance was Oscar-worthy, as lots have been suggesting.

Gary Oldman as Jim Gordon still rocks my socks. He's so fucking good. (Also? I *totally* thought that Harvey really was going to kill Gordon's son. I mean, I thought the movie would go there. And I'm really glad it didn't.

I thought Aaron Eckhart was fanfuckingtastic. I mean, REALLY. There was some backstory I would have liked -- for instance, everyone who knows the comics knows that Dent was going to become Two-Face, so it wouldn't have given too much away if, earlier on in the movie, Gordon or another cop had actually revealed Harvey's nickname. It just felt really clunky and avilly when it did happen.

I'm so taken by the Harvey-needs-Batman/Batman-needs-Harvey storyline, and I plan to write more about it later.

Part of me has never been all that thrilled by the Joker, which is why I'm going to say this: I got the sense that this was supposed to feel like a Batman vs. the Joker movie, yet it didn't, to me. It felt mostly like a movie about Harvey Dent. (Or at least, to the extent the Batman Begins felt like a movie about Jim Gordon, this one felt like a movie about Harvey Dent. Yes, Batman was there, and Bruce Wayne's journey, etc. is significant, and definitely took a HUGE leap closer to the scary-ass dark twisted weirdo that's in the comics these days. But past Batman and the toys -- all Harvey Dent.)

And I certainly didn't expect to come out of the movie thinking THAT.

(Also, I lamented Katie Holmes being replaced by Maggie Gyllenhaal, since Rachel got killed anyway. It would have been SO much more satisfying to see Katie Holmes blow up.


Frankenbuddha - Jul 18, 2008 8:28:35 pm PDT #7205 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Steph, massive snerk on your last whitefont. As to your main point about Harvey - I pretty much agree with you. In fact, I'd call the movie a battle between Batman and the Joker for Harvey's soul. The fact that they decided to not let the Joker win in the end, in terms of the public, was, I have to say, cheating on their part, and the Joker's going to know it. Sadly, as Jess (I think) said, I never want another actor to play the Joker, at least as long as this series is going on.

And I have to disagree in that I think Heath Ledger's Joker is a completely Oscar worthy performance. I really didn't think he had it in him, and there was stuff there that I'm not sure where it came from.